A reminder that Cocoon FirstFriday starts in 9 hours.
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/FirstFriday
join and just lurk without being too distracted. Personally,
I'll be there even if I won't probably be very active until late in the
evening (CET).
Ugo
[1]: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/FirstFriday
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Le 4 nov. 04, à 14:24, Ugo Cei a écrit :
Tomorrow is FirstFiday ([1]), isn't it? Regardless of what you're
doing tomorrow, I would like to invite all committers and interested
users to hang around on the IRC channel
irc://irc.freenode.net/#cocoon, which should be more popular, IMHO.
One of the
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 4 nov. 04, à 14:24, Ugo Cei a écrit :
Tomorrow is FirstFiday ([1]), isn't it? ...
Thanks Ugo - I'll be teaching in the morning and I'm not supposed to be
on IRC simultaneously...
Me neither. Maybe somebody could summarize the issues that you have discussed :-)
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Yes, it is on as usual.
Starting at 09:00 UTC in London - for a full turn of the planet.
Please help to fine-tune the upcoming release.
Join the IRC chat, mailing list, Bugzilla. It is fun.
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/FirstFriday
We are doing FirstFriday on IRC as usual
if you care to join.
We are doing the Wiki migration at the moment.
The conversion is done. So you can go to the new wiki.
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/FirstFriday
But we are currently dealing with some glitches:
* doing redirect from cocoondev.org
David Crossley wrote:
We are doing FirstFriday on IRC as usual
if you care to join.
We are doing the Wiki migration at the moment.
The conversion is done. So you can go to the new wiki.
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/FirstFriday
But we are currently dealing with some glitches:
* doing
On 02 Jul 2004, at 13:57, David Crossley wrote:
But we are currently dealing with some glitches:
* doing redirect from cocoondev.org
I already dropped Wiki notification mails coming from
wiki.cocoondev.org.
/Steven
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Outerthought
Are other people having trouble with editing the Wiki?
I go to UserPreferences, add name and password, login
it seems to accept me. However, when i visit a page
then i need to login again.
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David Crossley
So that you can all plan your appointment books.
FirstFriday is coming up soon. It is dedicated
to migrating the Wiki over to apache.org
... All hands on deck please.
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
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David Crossley
So that you can all plan your appointment books.
FirstFriday is coming up soon. It is dedicated
to migrating the Wiki over to apache.org
... All hands on deck please.
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
--
David Crossley
The Chat channel is getting active already. If anyone
wants to join in, then get the IRC details at [1].
--David
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi Cocoonistas,
Tomorrow is FirstFriday [1], and the cross-posting is intentional: you
don't necessarily need to be a committer to participate
Hi Cocoonistas,
Tomorrow is FirstFriday [1], and the cross-posting is intentional: you
don't necessarily need to be a committer to participate, there are
plenty of bugs and patches waiting for our collective squashing and
patching [2].
See you there! (on and off tomorrow for me)
[1] http
Today is the next FirstFriday - start is 6.5 hours away.
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
People from all over the planet are starting to gather around IRC
#cocoon, join us if you like!
Right now we're having most interesting discussions about the various
card games in people's countries. It might get slightly more technical
during the day though
-Bertrand
And renaming woody, right?
Carsten
-Original Message-
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ANN] don't forget FirstFriday!
Hi all,
Next Friday is FirstFriday
Le Mercredi, 3 mars 2004, à 19:06 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a
écrit :
And renaming woody, right?
right - forgot this one, sorry.
-Bertrand
Hi all,
Next Friday is FirstFriday, be there and squash'em bugs!
We're also planning to work on the ASF license changes.
More info at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
-Bertrand
see http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
I'll be there at least in the (GMT) morning - see you!
-Bertrand
Next Friday should in theory be a FirstFriday but I don't know if
anyone is in the mood at this time of the year.
I won't be able to participate, but if people are willing to do it,
please go ahead and create a new page from
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
If it doesn't
All volunteers are welcome, non-committers can also help analyze issues
and provide patches.
See http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday
-Bertrand
On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David
(Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is
there a good reason?
-Bertrand
On 24.11.2003 17:44, Upayavira wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David
(Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is
there a good reason?
-Bertrand
Well, 5th is the first Friday, and I don't see a reason why
Joerg Heinicke wrote:
Upayavira wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David
(Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is
there a good reason?
Well, 5th is the first Friday, and I don't see a reason why
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003
I would like to work on getting the Patch list down a bit,
especially some of the older ones.
The first one that i will tackle is:
23796 [PATCH] docs pages containing source are sometimes too wide
This has been taken to Forrest, so
Le Vendredi, 7 nov 2003, à 09:59 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit :
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003...
Wouldn't it be better to assign the bug to yourself in bugzilla,
instead of having to maintain a separate list?
I just did it for 24294, I'm going to add
On 07.11.2003 10:05, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003...
Wouldn't it be better to assign the bug to yourself in bugzilla, instead
of having to maintain a separate list?
I just did it for 24294, I'm going to add it to the scratchpad
Le Vendredi, 7 nov 2003, à 10:16 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit :
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her please
add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list won't be
informed that the bug is fixed.
good point, +1
-Bertrand
Joerg Heinicke wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003...
Wouldn't it be better to assign the bug to yourself in bugzilla, instead
of having to maintain a separate list?
I just did it for 24294, I'm going to add it to the
David Crossley wrote:
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her please
add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list won't be
informed that the bug is fixed.
Really? I thought that Bugzilla did default Cc for every action.
Afaik it does exactly that - I
Le Vendredi, 7 nov 2003, à 11:11 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a
écrit :
David Crossley wrote:
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her please
add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list won't be
informed that the bug is fixed.
Really? I thought that Bugzilla did
David Crossley wrote:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003
I would like to work on getting the Patch list down a bit,
especially some of the older ones.
The first one that i will tackle is:
23796 [PATCH] docs pages containing source are sometimes too wide
This has been
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
David Crossley wrote:
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her
please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list
won't be informed that the bug is fixed.
Really? I thought that Bugzilla did default Cc for every action.
Afaik it does
Le Vendredi, 7 nov 2003, à 11:20 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit :
...Can someone recommend a decent Windows IRC client? I'd at least
like to watch what's going on, even if I can't participate much.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/rt-messaging/chatzilla/ should work on
windows? Never used it
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
David Crossley wrote:
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her
please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list
won't be informed that the bug is fixed.
Really? I thought that Bugzilla did default Cc for every
Joerg Heinicke dijo:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
David Crossley wrote:
But please: If anyone assigns a bug to him/herself, can he/her
please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the CCs. Otherwise the list
won't be informed that the bug is fixed.
Really? I thought that Bugzilla did
Upayavira wrote:
Can someone recommend a decent Windows IRC client? I'd at least like to
watch what's going on, even if I can't participate much.
Upayavira
Try XChat http://xchat.org/.
Ugo
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I use Ksirc. It is part of KDE.
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
Can someone recommend a decent Windows IRC client? I'd at least like to
watch what's going on, even if I can't participate much.
Try XChat http://xchat.org/.
Another popular one is mIRC: http://www.mirc.org/
Andreas
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
Can someone recommend a decent Windows IRC client? I'd at least like to
watch what's going on, even if I can't participate much.
Try XChat http://xchat.org/.
Another popular one is mIRC: http://www.mirc.org/
Andreas
I've gone for the Mozilla one, which
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
snip/
Please, go to channel #cocoon we are discussing about that there right now.
Boohoo... I'm at a customer site and cannot participate...
Sylvain
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From: Sylvain Wallez
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
snip/
Please, go to channel #cocoon we are discussing about that
there right
now.
Boohoo... I'm at a customer site and cannot participate...
same problem here, no SSH, no IRC ... :-(
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Reinhard
Le Vendredi, 7 nov 2003, à 12:53 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit :
From: Sylvain Wallez
...
Boohoo... I'm at a customer site and cannot participate...
same problem here, no SSH, no IRC ... :-(
Just a reminder for people on IRC: make sure decisions and important
discussions take place on
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
(and if you're not there don't worry, it is only (nice and friendly)
chatter and quick coordination questions ATM ;-)
that's not true, since we voted that we would _not_ vote on IRC ;-D
seriously: you're perfectly right, Bertrand
/Steven
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Just found:
http://sangam.sourceforge.net/
An Eclipse plugin for XP style pair programming. No idea how good it is.
It requires a server (open source Kizna Syncshare
http://www.kizna.org), which I'm not in a position to install. Anyone
into trying it out?
Regards, Upayavira
Geoff Howard
Upayavira wrote:
Just found:
http://sangam.sourceforge.net/
An Eclipse plugin for XP style pair programming. No idea how good it is.
It requires a server (open source Kizna Syncshare
http://www.kizna.org), which I'm not in a position to install. Anyone
into trying it out?
Been there, done
Le Lundi, 20 oct 2003, à 14:07 Europe/Zurich, Arje Cahn a écrit :
I'm dreaming of an open source-Javascript
based-crossbrowser-SubEthaEdit-kinda editing tool
Sounds promising and *very* scary (implementation-wise) to me at the
same time ;-)
An easier option might be to improve the locking
doable? digest this first
http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/sun98operational.html
Ok; this is going to sound silly, I know.
I was thinking of sending keystrokes to different span's when a message is catched by
the HTTP call. Should be easy enough. Next would be an algorithm that is able of
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
On Monday, Oct 20, 2003, at 14:07 Europe/Rome, Arje Cahn wrote:
I'm dreaming of an open source-Javascript
based-crossbrowser-SubEthaEdit-kinda editing tool.
MultiLinotype?
If we put the document inside a 'contenteditable' field, and let some
Mozilla/IE compatible
On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 23:19 Europe/Rome, Geoff Howard wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
On Monday, Oct 20, 2003, at 14:07 Europe/Rome, Arje Cahn wrote:
I'm dreaming of an open source-Javascript
based-crossbrowser-SubEthaEdit-kinda editing tool.
MultiLinotype?
If we put the document inside a
On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 15:19 Europe/Rome, Arje Cahn wrote:
doable? digest this first
http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/sun98operational.html
Ok; this is going to sound silly, I know.
I was thinking of sending keystrokes to different span's when a
message is catched by the HTTP call. Should
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 01:53 PM, Arje Cahn wrote:
If any of you are interested in working with me on this,
please get in
touch. I can install any specific server software here
jerm.dyndns.org we might need (as long as it runs on MacOSX).
Count me in for client testing, Jeremy.
If there's
I'm dreaming of an open source-Javascript based-crossbrowser-SubEthaEdit-kinda editing
tool.
If we put the document inside a 'contenteditable' field, and let some Mozilla/IE
compatible object communicate with the server in the background, shouldn't that be
perfectly possible? We might have to
On Monday, Oct 20, 2003, at 14:07 Europe/Rome, Arje Cahn wrote:
I'm dreaming of an open source-Javascript
based-crossbrowser-SubEthaEdit-kinda editing tool.
MultiLinotype?
If we put the document inside a 'contenteditable' field, and let some
Mozilla/IE compatible object communicate with the
of different tools for code-collaboration for our
new FirstFriday sessions.
We thought it would be a good idea to try some of the tools out between
us first to see what was workable and what was not.
Bertrand is a bit busy, so I am asking you lot :)
If any of you are interested in working with me
, we had a quick
discussion
about the usefulness of different tools for
code-collaboration for our
new FirstFriday sessions.
We thought it would be a good idea to try some of the tools
out between
us first to see what was workable and what was not.
Bertrand is a bit busy, so I am
If any of you are interested in working with me on this,
please get in
touch. I can install any specific server software here
jerm.dyndns.org we might need (as long as it runs on MacOSX).
Count me in for client testing, Jeremy.
If there's any need for Linux or win2k hosting, I'll be
On Monday, Oct 13, 2003, at 14:53 Europe/Rome, Arje Cahn wrote:
If any of you are interested in working with me on this,
please get in
touch. I can install any specific server software here
jerm.dyndns.org we might need (as long as it runs on MacOSX).
Count me in for client testing, Jeremy.
If
Title: RE: [RT] FirstFriday - monthly virtual Hackathon
De : Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : jeudi 9 octobre 2003 15:26
...
http://irc.codehaus.org/channels/geronimo/2003-09-15.html
Impressive example of zero signal/noise ratio, BTW.
I really hope we do
From: Bertrand Delacretaz
FYI I have created
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp? page=FirstFriday
based on
the recent discussions here.
Thank you Bertrand. I also had a look at Andreas' list of tools of
whiteboard systems.
Which tool do you guys recommend? I prefer something that works
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Le Jeudi, 9 oct 2003, à 07:35 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit :
...Hmm, 0300 in my timezone.. I guess I'll be getting work started
when most of Europe is leaving work for the day.. ah well,
better than
none :)
Dunno, people
in toolsmania.
I tested Cocinella and Babylon last year and they both looked good, but
didn't use them on actual projects.
My dream would be a system where a group can create X whiteboards (like
one per Bugzilla issue for the FirstFriday), and see thumbnails of all
of them on a single web page
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:50:00AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Could we have a monthly virtual hackathon on the first Friday of each
month?
Suggestions:
-Takes place on the first Friday of every month
-Use IRC for real-time coordination
-Use normal bugzilla coordination once
on IRC certainly, so this might be a good
experiment for the first FirstFriday (got got it?).
-Bertrand
a channel bot.
There *will* be discussions on IRC certainly, so this might be a good
experiment for the first FirstFriday (got got it?).
The werken.com people have their IRC channel logged to the web, eg:
http://irc.codehaus.org/channels/geronimo/2003-09-15.html
and its updated in realtime
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 14:24 Europe/Rome, Marcus Crafter wrote:
The werken.com people have their IRC channel logged to the web, eg:
http://irc.codehaus.org/channels/geronimo/2003-09-15.html
Impressive example of zero signal/noise ratio, BTW.
I really hope we do better than this.
--
Marcus Crafter wrote:
The werken.com people have their IRC channel logged to the web, eg:
http://irc.codehaus.org/channels/geronimo/2003-09-15.html
and its updated in realtime. Maybe something similar might be possible?
Probably depends on the admins on the irc server we choose.
Cheers,
Marcus
So which tools are we going to use?
I think IIRC + bot sounds like a good and simple
start. At least for the virtual hackathon...
Did anyone try the other options yet?
cheers
--
Torsten
On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 21:22 Europe/Rome, Torsten Curdt wrote:
So which tools are we going to use?
I think IIRC + bot sounds like a good and simple
start. At least for the virtual hackathon...
Did anyone try the other options yet?
I would love to have a shared whiteboard, P2P would be
Le Jeudi, 9 oct 2003, à 22:20 Europe/Zurich, Michael Melhem a écrit :
Is this thing on 7.11.2003?
it is, see
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFridayNovember2003
-Bertrand
Not really an RT, this was suggested by David Crossley yesterday (or
sometime earlier, my body clock feels funny this morning ;-)
Could we have a monthly virtual hackathon on the first Friday of each
month?
Suggestions:
-Takes place on the first Friday of every month
-Lasts about 24 hours,
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Not really an RT, this was suggested by David Crossley yesterday (or
sometime earlier, my body clock feels funny this morning ;-)
Could we have a monthly virtual hackathon on the first Friday of each
month?
Suggestions:
-Takes place on the first Friday of
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
-Use IRC for real-time coordination
Does anyone know of an IRC client that's not blocked by a firewall?
Sorry, no.
Or is it possible to use irc via my apache account?
It would be (ssh into Apache then irc out) if there
was an irc client
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Does anyone know of an IRC client that's not blocked by a firewall?
CGI IRC:
http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/
Andrew.
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Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
snip /
Does anyone know of an IRC client that's not blocked by a firewall?
Or is it possible to use irc via my apache account?
you could tunnel through ssh (I guess ssh gets through your firwall)
HTH
Michael
Carsten
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Michael Wechner wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
snip /
Does anyone know of an IRC client that's not blocked by a firewall?
Or is it possible to use irc via my apache account?
you could tunnel through ssh (I guess ssh gets through your firwall)
Yes. How does it work? Can you please
of every month
I like that ... FirstFriday is able to be remembered.
Friday/Saturday is a good day - part work, part non-work.
So the first one would be 7 November.
-Lasts about 24 hours,
Yes, one rotation gives the whole planet a chance to be involved.
from whenever someone sends a mail here
David Crossley dijo:
-Use IRC for real-time coordination
We would need to have good etiquette. I have stayed away from
IRC because i thought that it would degenerate into a mess.
Email has bad signal/noise ratio, so would not chat be worse.
Anyway, i am happy to try any tool that increases
--- Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[1] I once tried coccinella (http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/), it is
great and very lightweight, cross-platform, uses Jabber for
communication so no firewall problems
The project's website seems to indicate that it cannot go through
a
Michael Wechner wrote:
you first need to reset the domain resolving for freenode for instance:
On Linux:
# su
# vi /etc/hosts
Add the following line:
127.0.0.1 irc.freenode.org
then you can create the tunnel by
ssh -l carsten -L 6667:irc.freenode.org:6667 www.apache.org
(well,
ok with keeping email as the main tool, and you're right about
decisions and possible votes during FirstFriday, they need to take
place on the lists.
Regarding IRC, it will certainly be going on at the same time too,
we'll see how it works.
-Bertrand
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le Mercredi, 8 oct 2003, à 13:47 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit :
...from whenever someone sends a mail here saying
that they're waiting for others to join
I think that it should start at a specific time. We know that
it is always on ... just be there when you
Le Jeudi, 9 oct 2003, à 07:35 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit :
...Hmm, 0300 in my timezone.. I guess I'll be getting work started
when most of Europe is leaving work for the day.. ah well, better than
none :)
Dunno, people are probably also going to start later when coming back
from work -
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