Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Paul Russell wrote: Stefano, taken off list because I think that thread's got long enough already! Hmmm, Paul, I think you hit the wrong button! since (unless I'm out of my mind) this came to me from the list. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:19:56 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-25 Thread Steven Noels
On 24 Feb 2005, at 16:31, Peter Hunsberger wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:18:28 +, Paul Russell snip/ My initial reaction to your e-mail was one of disappointment and anger. I didn't spend weeks on this e-mail in an attempt to alienate myself from you guys, and that's what it feels like I've

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2005 00:01, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I'm interested in solving real problems in the simplest possible way, even if they end up feeling hacky at times. And wasn't you just a few days ago warning against Cocoon crumbling under its own burden?? (burden I

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Paul Russell wrote: Daniel, On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:29:22 +0100, Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whithout migration part and/or extremely convincing usecases you will find it rather hard to have any impact at Cocoon. Most of us have invested so much effort in, and based on, the current

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-25 Thread Paul Russell
Stefano, taken off list because I think that thread's got long enough already! On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:19:56 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And contrary to what appears to be your belief, we replied as an effort to tune-down your 'blue sky' approach to a more let's fix what's

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 24 February 2005 09:03, Paul Russell wrote: Maybe I'll continue experimenting with it in my own time -- worst case, I waste my own time, best case, something useful comes out of it, and then everyone benefits. That okay with people? I'll keep it out of the way of here though to

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Paul Russell
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 17:24:48 +0800, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want a little bit of 'peer review', and some infrastructure both in form of subversion as well as 'real-block capable container', you are most welcome over at Digital Product Meta Library. Do you have a URL for

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:18:28 +, Paul Russell snip/ My initial reaction to your e-mail was one of disappointment and anger. I didn't spend weeks on this e-mail in an attempt to alienate myself from you guys, and that's what it feels like I've done. You told a whole lot of people that

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Paul Russell
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:31:50 -0600, Peter Hunsberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You told a whole lot of people that you thought their baby was ugly, what did you expect? Yep, I can see why that would get to people. Wasn't the intention though, I promise. I'm extremely proud of what Cocoon has

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Paul Russell wrote: Daniel, On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:29:22 +0100, Daniel Fagerstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whithout migration part and/or extremely convincing usecases you will find it rather hard to have any impact at Cocoon. Most of us have invested so much effort in, and based on, the

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 24 févr. 05, à 16:18, Paul Russell a écrit : ...my aim was to get these ideas out there, and let people think about them. It would seem I didn't present them in a very palatable way... I can't speak for others, but my mailbox right now shows that I'm 100 messages behind cocoon-dev... So

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Russell
Hi Stefano, On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:01:41 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Russell wrote: So, let me know what you think! Am I mad? Is this a bad/good idea? What have I missed? Is this something we should take further, or just a distraction? Paul, first of all, I

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-23 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 24 February 2005 00:01, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I'm interested in solving real problems in the simplest possible way, even if they end up feeling hacky at times. And wasn't you just a few days ago warning against Cocoon crumbling under its own burden?? (burden I assume == simplest

Re: [RT] The Silkworm Experiment

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Russell
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:04:08 +0800, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] But I am also with you that SilkWorm is a far too big step, which never will get enough momentum to fly around here. But it IS fun to speculate, discuss wild ideas and so on... All kids are setting out to