Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-20 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Ralph Goers pisze: I'm not sure what JNet actually is, but the part I was referring to was where Carsten was talking about Excalibur being dead and pulling out the few pieces we use. Maybe it's better that Carsten explains what he meant. :) Yepp I meant we

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-20 Thread Ralph Goers
I have no problem with merging the PMCs. I am not in favor of merging the source code. Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Ralph Goers pisze: I'm not sure what JNet actually is, but the part I was referring to was where Carsten was talking about Excalibur being dead and

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: 1. If you want other projects to use your stuff you need to prepare an official release. :-) First we have to discuss, which project does the release? Do we want to pull it into Cocoon? TBH, I'd rather get rid of Excalibur dependencies that creating another one.

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Carsten, I've taken a look at your code and it looks very nice. I have 2. All we need to do in SSF is: a) implement our own SourceFactoriesManager (by extending your abstrac class) No :) Just use SourceFactoriesManager.pushFactories when the request starts and

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: 1. If you want other projects to use your stuff you need to prepare an official release. :-) First we have to discuss, which project does the release? Do we want to pull it into Cocoon? TBH, I'd rather get rid of Excalibur dependencies that

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I think I'm wrong, we could also change the dep from jnet to sourceresolve to use the avalon version as a start. Carsten Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: 1. If you want other projects to use your stuff you need to prepare an official release. :-)

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: 1. If you want other projects to use your stuff you need to prepare an official release. :-) First we have to discuss, which project does the release? Do we want to pull it into Cocoon? TBH, I'd rather get rid of

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The problematic part is the time frame. I would suggest to just copy the jnet classes to SSF to be able to release SSF in a short time frame. Shouldn't we rather create another subproject jnet? We can then sort out the details after Easter. Just to be clear: Do you

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The problematic part is the time frame. I would suggest to just copy the jnet classes to SSF to be able to release SSF in a short time frame. Shouldn't we rather create another subproject jnet? Yes, in the long run. But to get out SSF asap I would

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: 1. If you want other projects to use your stuff you need to prepare an official release. :-) First we have to discuss, which project does the release? Do we want to pull it into Cocoon? TBH, I'd

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, in the long run. But to get out SSF asap I would just copy the classes. This is internal stuff, so this shouldn't cause problems if the packages, classes or methods change after the SSF release. +1 I propose to release 1.0.0 with a copy of jnet inside SSF; after

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: The problematic part is the time frame. I would suggest to just copy the jnet classes to SSF to be able to release SSF in a short time frame. Shouldn't we rather create another subproject jnet? Yes, in the long run. But to

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: No :) Just use SourceFactoriesManager.pushFactories when the request starts and popFactories at the end of the request. This can then also be used for different factories depending on the block that is currently executed. So it's like switching the block context. Yep,

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, in the long run. But to get out SSF asap I would just copy the classes. This is internal stuff, so this shouldn't cause problems if the packages, classes or methods change after the SSF release. +1 I propose to release 1.0.0 with a copy

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Ralph Goers
As a user of sourceresolve independent of Cocoon I would be -1 on moving it into Cocoon. If it goes anywhere I'd prefer commons. Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Now, I think that this will be over time the best solution *if* we can keep the excalibur package names - but I think that should be

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Ralph Goers pisze: As a user of sourceresolve independent of Cocoon I would be -1 on moving it into Cocoon. If it goes anywhere I'd prefer commons. Ralph, I'm not sure if you have followed the whole thread. We don't want to tie JNet code with Cocoon but only to establish a subproject of

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Ralph Goers
I'm not sure what JNet actually is, but the part I was referring to was where Carsten was talking about Excalibur being dead and pulling out the few pieces we use. Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Ralph Goers pisze: As a user of sourceresolve independent of Cocoon I would be -1 on moving it into

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-19 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Ralph Goers pisze: I'm not sure what JNet actually is, but the part I was referring to was where Carsten was talking about Excalibur being dead and pulling out the few pieces we use. Maybe it's better that Carsten explains what he meant. Anyway, my understanding is to bring JNet which is

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Thanks Carsten for a summary! To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of action we should take here. What you described sounds great and it's very tempting to have sources properly working with just standard URL class. Anyway, I'm little bit worried that whole things

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Thanks Carsten for a summary! To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of action we should take here. What you described sounds great and it's very tempting to have sources properly working with just standard URL class. Anyway, I'm little bit

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Thanks Carsten for a summary! To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of action we should take here. What you described sounds great and it's very tempting to have sources properly working with just standard URL class.

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, that is the reason why I started jnet :) (unfortunately I never had time to finish this) What's left? Only polishing or more? -- Reinhard PötzManaging Director, {Indoqa} GmbH

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, that is the reason why I started jnet :) (unfortunately I never had time to finish this) What's left? Only polishing or more? Polishing and trying to convince the projects to use it :) Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-18 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Carsten Ziegeler pisze: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Yes, that is the reason why I started jnet :) (unfortunately I never had time to finish this) What's left? Only polishing or more? Polishing and trying to convince the projects to use it :) Carsten, I've taken a

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-17 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Carsten Ziegeler pisze: Filled up an issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-2176 My plan is to register default Excalibur's SourceResolver implementation as a Spring-bean and use it by default. Then, Cocoon Core would replace it with

Re: SourceResolver in SSF

2008-03-17 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Carsten Ziegeler pisze: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Carsten Ziegeler pisze: Filled up an issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-2176 My plan is to register default Excalibur's SourceResolver implementation as a Spring-bean and use it by default. Then, Cocoon Core would replace