Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 12/18/06, Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Seems like all us is too busy. :).. Exactly - and I think it's better to be realistic than to pretend supporting something without having the resources to actually do it. (BTW it's good to hear that you're busy for good reasons like

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Ralph Goers
Niclas Hedhman wrote: If we have made a prior commitment of keeping the 2.1.x compatible with JDK1.3, then that should stand. It should not be a matter of what a handful developers think. They are usually on the curring edge anyway, but what the user community are depending on. It is these

[IMP] Code freeze for 2.1.x is over

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I assembled the release candidate for 2.1.10 (vote mail will follow soon), so this ends the code freeze. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Chief Architect http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

[Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Please cast your votes on the 2.1.10 release. The release candidate can be downloaded from: http://people.apache.org/~cziegeler/cocoon/ The corresponding sources are under: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/tags/RC_2_1_10/ The vote will be open for 72 hours. If the vote passes, I will

[2.2] Duplicate (and different) versions of batik on classpath

2006-12-18 Thread Bart Molenkamp
Hi, I found a problem with the cocoon-batik-impl block. When I add a dependency to this block, I end up with two different versions of Batik on my classpath. The first (and correct) one is batik-1.6-1. But due to a dependency to fop 0.20.5, batik-1.5-fop gets included (which is not compatible

Re: [Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes on the 2.1.10 release. The release candidate can be downloaded from: http://people.apache.org/~cziegeler/cocoon/ The corresponding sources are under: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cocoon/tags/RC_2_1_10/ +1 Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler

Re: [Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 12/18/06, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The release candidate can be downloaded from: http://people.apache.org/~cziegeler/cocoon/.. On my macosx system with either JDK 1.4.2 or 1.5, all the automated tests from org.apache.cocoon.forms.datatype fail

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Re: [Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 12/18/06, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...The release candidate can be downloaded from: http://people.apache.org/~cziegeler/cocoon/.. On my macosx system with either JDK 1.4.2 or 1.5, all the automated tests from org.apache.cocoon.forms.datatype

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 18 December 2006 16:26, Ralph Goers wrote: So I would think trunk should be released as 3.0, if for no other reason than allow the next 2.1 release to be 2.2.0 without jdk 1.3 support. I agree (and with Helma's elaboration). Personally, I don't understand the intense resistence of

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 12/18/06, hepabolu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...- rename the current branch to Cocoon 2.2 without the 1.3 compatibility.. Not 2.2, please...we've been talking about 2.2 for so long that releasing the 2.1 branch as 2.2 might be very confusing. I'm not against renumbering things, no problem

Cocoon 2.2 - Use a block for the root sitemap

2006-12-18 Thread Patrick Refondini
As of my tests a block configured to handle root sitemap does only strictly answer to / resource call. The rest of its context seems to be inaccessible. Thus, for instance, if a block testblock1 is configured to handle root sitemap and should serve: a welcome page at / some content at

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Jörg Heinicke
- stop the development of Cocoon 2.1 after the release of 2.1.10 - rename the current branch to Cocoon 2.2 without the 1.3 compatibility (and maybe other minor changes that are now prevented by the versioning contract) - rename the current trunk to Cocoon 3.0 My goal was not to open

Re: Cocoon 2.2 - Use a block for the root sitemap

2006-12-18 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
The root servlet should be mounted at not /. Alexander had the same problem. So even if I find the current behavior intuitive, no one else seem to agree ;). So we should probably have special handling of / as you suggest. /Daniel Patrick Refondini skrev: As of my tests a block configured to

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On 12/18/06, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/18/06, hepabolu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...- rename the current branch to Cocoon 2.2 without the 1.3 compatibility.. Not 2.2, please...we've been talking about 2.2 for so long that releasing the 2.1 branch as 2.2 might be very

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 12/18/06, Peter Hunsberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd bet every single person that has actually downloaded Trunk and built it can cope with having it called 3.0 instead of 2.2... Agreed, my problem is not this one. What I fear is that, if we release an evolution of 2.1.x and name it

JX or JPath without flowscript

2006-12-18 Thread falcorn
Hi. Is any posibility to use jx generator or JPath logicsheets without flowscript. I mean how to acces request, context or session params. Greetings Piotr -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JX-or-JPath-without-flowscript-tf2840359.html#a7930025 Sent from the Cocoon - Dev

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Ralph Goers
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: What I fear is that, if we release an evolution of 2.1.x and name it 2.2, people will be confused. For example by searching our lists for 2.2 and finding lots of messages about Maven, while *that* 2.2 version would not use Maven. That is a valid concern. We kind of

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: What I fear is that, if we release an evolution of 2.1.x and name it 2.2, people will be confused. For example by searching our lists for 2.2 and finding lots of messages about Maven, while *that* 2.2 version would not use Maven. That is a valid

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. I agree. -- Reinhard Pötz Independent Consultant, Trainer (IT)-Coach {Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On 12/18/06, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/18/06, Peter Hunsberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd bet every single person that has actually downloaded Trunk and built it can cope with having it called 3.0 instead of 2.2... Agreed, my problem is not this one. What I

Re: JX or JPath without flowscript

2006-12-18 Thread Jeroen Reijn
Hi Piotr, I'm afraid that questions like these should go to the cocoon user list instead of the developers list. To answer your question: Yes you can use the jx generator without flowscript. From the jx you can access: the request by using cocoon.request.someFunction(); the context by

Re: Cocoon 2.2 - Use a block for the root sitemap

2006-12-18 Thread Patrick Refondini
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: The root servlet should be mounted at not /. Alexander had the same problem. So even if I find the current behavior intuitive, no one else seem to agree ;). So we should probably have special handling of / as you suggest. I just tested configuration and it does

Re: Cocoon 2.2 - Use a block for the root sitemap

2006-12-18 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Patrick Refondini wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: The root servlet should be mounted at not /. Alexander had the same problem. So even if I find the current behavior intuitive, no one else seem to agree ;). So we should probably have special handling of / as you suggest. I just tested

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. get 2.1.10 out, close 2.1.x branch, and work on getting 2.2 out - i'm completely +1 on this line of thinking. Why do we need to keep on dragging 2.1.x

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Vadim Gritsenko skrev: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. get 2.1.10 out, close 2.1.x branch, and work on getting 2.2 out - i'm completely +1 on this line of thinking. Why do we need to

Re: Cocoon 2.2 - Use a block for the root sitemap

2006-12-18 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Patrick Refondini wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: The root servlet should be mounted at not /. Alexander had the same problem. So even if I find the current behavior intuitive, no one else seem to agree ;). So we should probably have special handling of / as you

Re: ExpiresCachingProcessingPipeline and cache-expires

2006-12-18 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 12/13/06, Matthias Epheser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the documentation here http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/components/1063/g1/939.html it should be possible to declare the expires time in mod_expires style (e.g.. access plus 4

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Dec 18, 2006, at 3:59 AM, hepabolu wrote: Guys, [snipped: proposal to rebadge 2.1.11 = 2.2, 2.2 = 3.0] No, no... please, no!! The mailing list archives and JIRA are loaded with references to the current version number scheme. 2.2 = Mavenization 3.0 = OSGi Don't change it now, that

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Dec 18, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: That is a valid concern. We kind of painted ourselves in a box by calling trunk 2.2 way before it was ready to be anything. Agreed, IMHO all future releases beyond 2.2 (will that actually be 2.2.0?) should use internal code names until right

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Dec 18, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: get 2.1.10 out, close 2.1.x branch, and work on getting 2.2 out - i'm completely +1 on this line of thinking. Why do we need to keep on dragging 2.1.x branch forward? Just say that 2.1.10 is last on jdk 1.3 (and last of 2.1.x), and 2.2

Re: [Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 18.12.2006 10:42, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: all the automated tests from org.apache.cocoon.forms.datatype fail (DynamicSelectionListTestCase,EnumSelectionListTestCase,FlowJXPathSelectionListTestCase). IIRC the same tests passed last week, anyone know what could have changed? This is

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I would be voting -1 in behalf of unheard users. Thanks Niclas, here we go: I vote -1 for the reasons stated above. Changing the user contracts is not fair. I'd say that you owe to users the chance to become heard by asking on the

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread hepabolu
Vadim Gritsenko said the following on 18/12/06 17:14: get 2.1.10 out, close 2.1.x branch, and work on getting 2.2 out - i'm completely +1 on this line of thinking. Why do we need to keep on dragging 2.1.x branch forward? Just say that 2.1.10 is last on jdk 1.3 (and last of 2.1.x), and 2.2

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Lundquist
Just to clarify... I had a typo/braino: On Dec 18, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Mark Lundquist wrote: If users *do* give a rip, then the answer might *still* be too freakin' bad! What else? Bummer about Cocoon, they could never release 2.1.11 because they couldn't do it without 'changing the

Re: [Vote] Release 2.1.10

2006-12-18 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 18.12.2006 20:34, Joerg Heinicke wrote: all the automated tests from org.apache.cocoon.forms.datatype fail (DynamicSelectionListTestCase,EnumSelectionListTestCase,FlowJXPathSelectionListTestCase). IIRC the same tests passed last week, anyone know what could have changed? As forms block

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Alfred Nathaniel
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 16:24 +0100, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. I agree. I agree, too. The last thing I want is to hold up the 2.1.10. If I had known

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 18.12.2006 16:22, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. +1 Jörg

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Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Mark Lundquist escribió: On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Antonio Gallardo wrote: I would be voting -1 in behalf of unheard users. Thanks Niclas, here we go: I vote -1 for the reasons stated above. Changing the user contracts is not fair. I'd say that you owe to users the chance to become

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 00:14, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Perhaps we should rethink this drop jdk1.3 support stuff, remove the comment from the status file and get 2.1.10 out. get 2.1.10 out, close 2.1.x branch, and work on getting 2.2 out - i'm completely +1 on

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 03:13, Mark Lundquist wrote: On Dec 18, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: That is a valid concern. We kind of painted ourselves in a box by calling trunk 2.2 way before it was ready to be anything. Agreed, IMHO all future releases beyond 2.2 (will that

Re: [VOTE] Drop JDK1.3 support after 2.1.10 release

2006-12-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Alfred Nathaniel wrote: I agree, too. The last thing I want is to hold up the 2.1.10. If I had known what I stirred up here, I would not have started it. I guess most of us did not expect this :( I apologize for the short time for discusion and vote but the idea was to get it into