Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-05 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 04.11.2005 15:36, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Can't follow you? What do you have in mind? This is related to the Ajax BrowserUpdateTransformer: Ok, convinced. Your explanation sounds reasonable. Jörg

Re: Vote Result: Releasing 2.1.8 today [was: [Vote] Releasing on friday]

2005-11-04 Thread Ralph Goers
Just as well. I'm still trying to get the portal full screen working properly. If I can't get it working tomorrow I'll have to back the change out as I'll be away next week. Ralph Carsten Ziegeler wrote: To be honest I'm not really happy about this vote: I counted only four votes! I'm

Re: Vote Result: Releasing 2.1.8 today [was: [Vote] Releasing on friday]

2005-11-04 Thread Jorg Heymans
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: To be honest I'm not really happy about this vote: I counted only four votes! I'm still trying to figure out what this result means to us? Anyway, I counted two +1's, one +0.5, one -0.5 and some reservations for releasing today. My decision is to not release

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 04.11.2005 02:09, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Yep. The . and / are already checked in AbstractWidgetDefinition.setCommonProperties(). We just need to add :. Why we need to use a symbol at any cost ? Can we use a simple word prefix? As

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Now the question is: do you find the \3A quirk to be a blocking issue? It seems to me that more often inputs in a form will be styled using classes, so as all inputs share the same styling rule. Also, a way to avoid the quirk is to use the

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Now the question is: do you find the \3A quirk to be a blocking issue? It seems to me that more often inputs in a form will be styled using classes, so as all inputs share the same styling rule. Also, a way to avoid the

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Sorry to go back to the origin of this discussion, but wouldn't it then be better to generate an id for the ajax wrapper element instead of the input element? Nobody cares about the wrapper element, but nearly everybody about the styling of the

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Sorry to go back to the origin of this discussion, but wouldn't it then be better to generate an id for the ajax wrapper element instead of the input element? Nobody cares about the wrapper element, but nearly everybody

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 04.11.2005 02:09, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Yep. The . and / are already checked in AbstractWidgetDefinition.setCommonProperties(). We just need to add :. Why we need to use a symbol at any cost ? Can we use a simple

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 03/nov/05, alle ore 06:47, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. -0.5. Too many CForms last minute changes, as you wrote in response to Sylvain. Incidentally, I'm +1 on Sylvain's proposed changes to element id

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 03/nov/05, alle ore 06:47, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. -0.5. Too many CForms last minute changes, as you wrote in response to Sylvain. +1 from me. Let's not delay once more the baby The last

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Upayavira
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 03/nov/05, alle ore 06:47, Carsten Ziegeler ha scritto: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. -0.5. Too many CForms last minute changes, as you wrote in response to Sylvain. +1 from me. Let's not delay

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Upayavira wrote: Incidentally, I'm +1 on Sylvain's proposed changes to element id generation strategy. My question before voting is how have you gone about identifying that a colon is a valid character within ids in all browsers? I checked the XML specification:

CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
(I think this should be discussed in a separate thread) Sylvain Wallez wrote: The last minute change is just about replacing -input with :input within two XSLs, to avoid problems later. Isn't : used as separator for the namespace prefix? I don't know if this applies to IDs too, but perhaps

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Andreas Hochsteger wrote: (I think this should be discussed in a separate thread) Sylvain Wallez wrote: The last minute change is just about replacing -input with :input within two XSLs, to avoid problems later. Isn't : used as separator for the namespace prefix? I don't know if this

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: This usage in CForms has already been introduced by the recent library stuff, which associates prefixes to libraries, thus effectively forbidding the use of : in widget ids (otherwise you cannot differenciate between a widget name and a composite name that references

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: This usage in CForms has already been introduced by the recent library stuff, which associates prefixes to libraries, thus effectively forbidding the use of : in widget ids (otherwise you cannot differenciate between a widget name and a

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: This usage in CForms has already been introduced by the recent library stuff, which associates prefixes to libraries, thus effectively forbidding the use of : in widget ids (otherwise you cannot differenciate between a

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 3 Nov 2005, at 05:47, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. (if we vote to not release on friday, I can do the release on any day in the next week). What about these three issues targeted for 2.1.8 ???

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnín
2005/11/3, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3 Nov 2005, at 05:47, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. (if we vote to not release on friday, I can do the release on any day in the next week). What about these three issues

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 03.11.2005 06:47, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. +0 Too much to do at the moment to test Cocoon. I'm just reading the lists at the moment. And from those I don't have the best feelings about the latest changes. Jörg

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Upayavira wrote: Incidentally, I'm +1 on Sylvain's proposed changes to element id generation strategy. My question before voting is how have you gone about identifying that a colon is a valid character within ids in all browsers? I checked the XML

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: This usage in CForms has already been introduced by the recent library stuff, which associates prefixes to libraries, thus effectively forbidding the use of : in widget ids (otherwise you cannot differenciate between a

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 04.11.2005 02:09, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Yep. The . and / are already checked in AbstractWidgetDefinition.setCommonProperties(). We just need to add :. Why we need to use a symbol at any cost ? Can we use a simple word prefix? As cform-[widgetID]? If you prefix the widget id with a

Re: CForms widget ID naming (was Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday)

2005-11-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 04.11.2005 02:09, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Yep. The . and / are already checked in AbstractWidgetDefinition.setCommonProperties(). We just need to add :. Why we need to use a symbol at any cost ? Can we use a simple word prefix? As cform-[widgetID]? If you

Vote Result: Releasing 2.1.8 today [was: [Vote] Releasing on friday]

2005-11-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
To be honest I'm not really happy about this vote: I counted only four votes! I'm still trying to figure out what this result means to us? Anyway, I counted two +1's, one +0.5, one -0.5 and some reservations for releasing today. My decision is to not release today, sorry, but imho there are not

Re: Vote Result: Releasing 2.1.8 today [was: [Vote] Releasing on friday]

2005-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 04.11.2005, at 08:30, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: To be honest I'm not really happy about this vote: I counted only four votes! I'm still trying to figure out what this result means to us? I suspect it means I haven't tested enough to be confident so I don't know. Have all reported issues

[Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. (if we vote to not release on friday, I can do the release on any day in the next week). Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, SN AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-02 Thread Ralph Goers
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. (if we vote to not release on friday, I can do the release on any day in the next week). Carsten +1

Re: [Vote] Releasing on friday

2005-11-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 nov. 05, à 06:47, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Please cast your votes for releasing 2.1.8 on friday, 4th of November. +0.5: ok to the release, but if people think we need more time to test the latest changes (forms?), I'm ok with that. -Bertrand