Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-09-10 Thread Tony Collen
Hey peeps, I'm catching up on some old list traffic, and I thought I'd comment since I was too busy when this first came up. I just want a little clarification: Stefano originally wrote: The closest thing that we have in place for that is Pier's kernel (that was development with my

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-09-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Tony Collen wrote: Hey peeps, I'm catching up on some old list traffic, and I thought I'd comment since I was too busy when this first came up. I just want a little clarification: Stefano originally wrote: The closest thing that we have in place for that is Pier's kernel (that was development

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-09-10 Thread Tony Collen
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: nononononon when I said somebody elses I meant somebody else rather than people in the cocoon community. Tani will be based on Pier's code... even if probably we'll have to rewrite it from scratch anyway [more on this soon]. 10-4. :) Everything cleared up. That's

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-09-02 Thread Geoff Howard
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:15:29 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torsten Curdt wrote: +1 for the branch and although I really like the name tani I think we should stick to what we decided. no fancy names. +1 for keeping the new-kernel (or naming it block-kernel)

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-29 Thread Steven Noels
On 29 Aug 2004, at 02:53, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: in case it wasn't clear, new-kernel will be renamed Tani. Fair enough. Maybe you should have posted a [request] rename of the new-kernel branch then. :-) I'm not going to try and understand why a mere change of a directory name is necessary to

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-29 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Just like Ugo, I feel the need for a clean slate and a place where I can work without breaking everybody else's code. I personally don't care if the code will be used or not, what I care is to create a prototype to show to this community and to my group at MIT,

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-29 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Just like Ugo, I feel the need for a clean slate and a place where I can work without breaking everybody else's code. I personally don't care if the code will be used or not, what I care is to create a prototype to show to this community and

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
On 28 Aug 2004, at 06:44, David Crossley wrote: However, remember the fate of our woody ... we decided no fanciful names in released components. Yup. +1 on keeping the new-kernel branch. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Torsten Curdt
+1 for the branch and although I really like the name tani I think we should stick to what we decided. no fancy names. +1 for keeping the new-kernel (or naming it block-kernel) cheers -- Torsten

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Torsten Curdt wrote: +1 for the branch and although I really like the name tani I think we should stick to what we decided. no fancy names. +1 for keeping the new-kernel (or naming it block-kernel) Hmmm, what about butterfly then? The problem with calling it new-kernel is that the new kernel is

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is, in fact, a cocoon internal fork and, as for the rules of revolutionaries, every committer is allowed to ask for it with the name that he/she pleases. How it's so, if it is planned (and discussed, and to some point designed) feature? Hence, no need for invoking

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Torsten Curdt
The problem with calling it new-kernel is that the new kernel is just part of what that branch will host and this will create naming issues. Well, ok... thought you wanted to call the kernel itself tani. I don't want to appear pushy, but this is not a vote. Well, I guess we all understood ...but

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Steven Noels
On 28 Aug 2004, at 16:15, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Just like Ugo, I feel the need for a clean slate and a place where I can work without breaking everybody else's code. Let's all use our own hard disk then. :-) More seriously: there's Butterfly, new-kernel, 2.1_X, trunk, and now Tani. I'm

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Steven Noels wrote: On 28 Aug 2004, at 16:15, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Just like Ugo, I feel the need for a clean slate and a place where I can work without breaking everybody else's code. Let's all use our own hard disk then. :-) We already are, but you don't see SVN commits from my HD, nor I

[request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I've been away from the real cocoon development for a while, but my day job requires me to build a prototype using cocoon but with real blocks implemented. Therefore, I need to get real blocks working on cocoon. The closest thing that we have in place for that is Pier's kernel (that was

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I hereby request the creation of the tani effort, which is the codename for what I hope it will become Cocoon 2.2, even if this will have to be decided by the community once we feel confident enough. One of my goals for such a new framework is transparent migration:

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 27 Aug 2004, at 19:04, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: I don't understand what tani means (from an old email) Tani is the Japanese word for Valley. http://www.nuthatch.com/kanji/demo/8c37.html Its kanji is also quite nice: http://ww1.baywell.ne.jp/fpweb/drlatham/nihongo/kanji/less10/tani.gif / \ / /\

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 27 Aug 2004, at 19:04, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: I don't understand what tani means (from an old email) Tani is the Japanese word for Valley. http://www.nuthatch.com/kanji/demo/8c37.html Its kanji is also quite nice:

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 27/ago/04, alle 18:38, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: I don't need a vote to make this happen, but I'm asking for comments. No comments, just a go ahead from me and a question: what does tani stand for? Ugo -- Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread David Crossley
Pier Fumagalli wrote: Tani is the Japanese word for Valley. snipped the excellent portrayal in ascii art because the house fell down in the email reply :- It looks like a house (the block) in the middle of a valley (the container).. The combination is what I really like: the name valley

Re: [request] creation of the Tani branch

2004-08-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 27 août 04, à 18:38, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...I don't need a vote to make this happen... But still: big +1 here. I like the name and kanji as well. -Bertrand, who was lately (pessimistically) wondering whether someone would need real blocks bad enough to actually implement them ;-)