Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-07-04 Thread David Crossley
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Vadim Gritsenko pisze: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: I wanted to know what are our rules. Do we: - want to have such a internal releases I'd avoid using word release for this as it has some legal implications and we would get chewed up for using it :) Ah,

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-07 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: I don't think it's harder with Maven. Maven was important factor when it comes to ability to have independent release cycles. We just need to clearly define terms (like release) we use I hope you are not suggesting to stop releasing milestones. and get used to

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-06 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Ralph Goers pisze: I have always been unhappy that Cocoon releases contained non-released jars for a few reasons: 1. Often the jars were labeled something like xyz-20070525-dev.jar. It is impossible to download the source for this and know for sure that it matches what the jar was

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: On the other hand, milestones are just our internal releases and I think we can live with these gaps. No, they are not internal: http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/changes.html http://archive.apache.org/dist/cocoon/SOURCES/

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-05 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Vadim Gritsenko pisze: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: On the other hand, milestones are just our internal releases and I think we can live with these gaps. No, they are not internal: http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/changes.html http://archive.apache.org/dist/cocoon/SOURCES/

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-05 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Vadim Gritsenko pisze: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: On the other hand, milestones are just our internal releases and I think we can live with these gaps. No, they are not internal: http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/changes.html

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-05 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Vadim Gritsenko pisze: I wanted to know what are our rules. Do we: - want to have such a internal releases I'd avoid using word release for this as it has some legal implications and we would get chewed up for using it :) Ah, I'm young committer so forgive me that I omit legal implications

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-05 Thread Ralph Goers
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Examples you provided do not apply to the situation I want to discuss. In 2.1 times we were shipping all dependencies ourselves so there is no problem of dependency resolution. I was talking about the situation when we want to release some early alpha that has

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-04 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Torsten Curdt pisze: 3. We cannot put milestones that depend on snapshot versions on central. It means that we can't upload following artifacts: org.apache.cocoon:cocoon-maven-plugin:1.0.0-M1 org.apache.cocoon:cocoon-rcl-spring-reloader:1.0.0-M1

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-04 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Even though I agree that it's the best to release all of our dependencies I would like to know your opinion on how to handle cases when not all our dependencies are on central server. I'm going to play with profiles.xml file and see how it performs for us. I would

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-04 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Reinhard Poetz pisze: Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Even though I agree that it's the best to release all of our dependencies I would like to know your opinion on how to handle cases when not all our dependencies are on central server. I'm going to play with profiles.xml file and see how it

Discussion about Maven

2007-06-03 Thread Grzegorz Kossakowski
Hello, I talked with Maven developers on IRC today. I asked for the problem[1] we are currently facing. They give me interesting advices and thoughts that may interest you. I paste cleaned up log file of the talk: [15:32:18] grek hi, I'm Grzegorz Kossakowski, a member of PMC of Apache Cocoon

Re: Discussion about Maven

2007-06-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
3. We cannot put milestones that depend on snapshot versions on central. It means that we can't upload following artifacts: org.apache.cocoon:cocoon-maven-plugin:1.0.0-M1 org.apache.cocoon:cocoon-rcl-spring-reloader:1.0.0-M1 org.apache.cocoon:cocoon-rcl-webapp-wrapper:1.0.0-M1 If there are