Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jörg Schaible
Rahul Akolkar wrote: As Jakarta winds down, we are looking for sustainable homes for couple of Java libraries -- BCEL [1] and JCS [2]. These aren't very different from many Commons libraries in size, number of developers, list traffic etc. Would Commons be interested in accepting these?

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons - Apache Commons Digester - Default Maven 2 Build Definition (Java 1.5)

2011-06-16 Thread Continuum@vmbuild
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=9009projectId=75 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Failed Started at: Thu 16 Jun 2011 06:49:15 + Finished at: Thu 16 Jun 2011 06:49:31 + Total time: 16s Build Trigger: Schedule

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread luc . maisonobe
- Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com a écrit : As Jakarta winds down, we are looking for sustainable homes for couple of Java libraries -- BCEL [1] and JCS [2]. These aren't very different from many Commons libraries in size, number of developers, list traffic etc. Would Commons be

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-06-16, Rahul Akolkar wrote: As Jakarta winds down, we are looking for sustainable homes for couple of Java libraries -- BCEL [1] and JCS [2]. These aren't very different from many Commons libraries in size, number of developers, list traffic etc. Would Commons be interested in

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2011 03:24, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: As Jakarta winds down, we are looking for sustainable homes for couple of Java libraries -- BCEL [1] and JCS [2]. These aren't very different from many Commons libraries in size, number of developers, list traffic etc. Would

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-digester3-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-06-16 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-digester3-test has an issue affecting its community integration.

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-06-16 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-proxy-test has an issue affecting its community integration. This

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
In all honesty, Rahul: For BCEL wouldn't it be better to archive it? On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Rahul Akolkar rahul.akol...@gmail.com wrote: As Jakarta winds down, we are looking for sustainable homes for couple of Java libraries -- BCEL [1] and JCS [2]. These aren't very different from

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
And now, after reading through the threads below: Same question for JCS? As I see it, you got only three replies in more than one week to such an important topic. That's not the smell of an active project? Jochen On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Thomas
On 16/06/2011 13:07, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: In all honesty, Rahul: For BCEL wouldn't it be better to archive it? For the record, Tomcat 7 is using a partial, package renamed fork of BCEL but isn't doing anything that might be considered active development. I don't think a move to the attic would

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2011 13:07, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: In all honesty, Rahul: For BCEL wouldn't it be better to archive it? There have been quite a few changes to BCEL since the last release (5.2), including several this year, so if we do archive it, let's at least do another

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2011 13:12, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: And now, after reading through the threads below: Same question for JCS? As I see it, you got only three replies in more than one week to such an important topic. That's not the smell of an active project? It could just

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2011/6/16 Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org: On 16/06/2011 13:07, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: In all honesty, Rahul: For BCEL wouldn't it be better to archive it? For the record, Tomcat 7 is using a partial, package renamed fork of BCEL but isn't doing anything that might be considered active

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
snip/ Given that I have looked a bit after BCEL over the past few years here are my two cents: BCEL development is dead dead dead ... still people come and use it. Why they don't use ASM is beyond me. I myself use ASM whenever I can. For those how want easier I would suggest javassist ...if it

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2011 14:53, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: snip/ Given that I have looked a bit after BCEL over the past few years here are my two cents: BCEL development is dead dead dead ... still people come and use it. Why they don't use ASM is beyond me. I myself use ASM whenever I

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Matt Benson
First, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who hadn't heard of JCS. Considering [1], I'd say it's more relevant now than, arguably, ever. I'd like to work on it. From the Jakarta threads, Thomas Vandahl offered to step up, so given our low bar for existing ASF committers, it should have enough

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Simone Tripodi
+1 to Matt, wise said :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: First, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who hadn't heard of JCS. Considering [1], I'd say it's more relevant now than,

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: It could just be that the other interested parties are on holiday, or that they agree with the move and don't feel the need to say so. May be, but it should also be noted the replies came from people like you, which are most likely

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Considering [1], I'd say it's more relevant now than, arguably, ever. Are you sure, that's related? Reading [2], my understanding is that JCS doesn't aim to implement JSR-107, but to be close to. [2]

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Matt Benson
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: It could just be that the other interested parties are on holiday, or that they agree with the move and don't feel the need to say so. May be, but

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Matt Benson
(accidentally sent to Jochen personally before, sorry) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Considering [1], I'd say it's more relevant now than, arguably, ever. Are you

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Matt Benson
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: (accidentally sent to Jochen personally before, sorry) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/16/11 8:22 AM, Matt Benson wrote: (accidentally sent to Jochen personally before, sorry) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Considering [1], I'd say it's more

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
 Not sure what factors contributed to the stagnation of BCEL development, but I like to think of Commons as the swiss army knife for Java developers--any library with a sharply defined surface area and, even better, satisfying some need commonly encountered by Java developers, belongs here

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Matt Benson
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote:  Not sure what factors contributed to the stagnation of BCEL development, but I like to think of Commons as the swiss army knife for Java developers--any library with a sharply defined surface area and, even better,

[pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread Phil Steitz
Yesterday I fixed some [dbcp] problems caused by the new [pool] requirement that setFactory can only be called once. The quotes are because most of the problems were redundant calls to setFactory. The reason that we left setFactory in [pool] is that [dbcp]'s connection factory constructors call

Re: [pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread sebb
On 16 June 2011 17:25, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I fixed some [dbcp] problems caused by the new [pool] requirement that setFactory can only be called once.  The quotes are because most of the problems were redundant calls to setFactory. The reason that we left

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Point taken; however, from the when all you have is a hammer perspective, if byte code generation/manipulation were made easy enough, folk might use it more!  ;) Perhaps Proxy could use BCEL to implement ProxyFactory

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Torsten Curdt
So according to you byte code manipulation is a commonly encountered need for java developers? I guess then Commons should/could be the home of virtually any java library out there. Point taken; however, from the when all you have is a hammer perspective, if byte code

Re: [pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/16/11 9:32 AM, sebb wrote: On 16 June 2011 17:25, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I fixed some [dbcp] problems caused by the new [pool] requirement that setFactory can only be called once. The quotes are because most of the problems were redundant calls to setFactory.

Re: [pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Thomas
On 16/06/2011 17:32, sebb wrote: On 16 June 2011 17:25, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I fixed some [dbcp] problems caused by the new [pool] requirement that setFactory can only be called once. The quotes are because most of the problems were redundant calls to setFactory.

Re: [pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/16/11 10:19 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 16/06/2011 17:32, sebb wrote: On 16 June 2011 17:25, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I fixed some [dbcp] problems caused by the new [pool] requirement that setFactory can only be called once. The quotes are because most of the

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:32 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Perhaps Proxy could use BCEL to implement ProxyFactory (or whatever it's called these days). As Thorsten wrote, they can (and perhaps even should) use ASM. The fact that a project might be used by yet another

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Gary Gregory
On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:54, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: snip/ Given that I have looked a bit after BCEL over the past few years here are my two cents: BCEL development is dead dead dead ... still people come and use it. Why they don't use ASM is beyond me. I myself use ASM whenever

[graph] first random thoughts and considerations

2011-06-16 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi al guys, after few activity on graph I finally brought the component in a decent state to start speaking with the rest of the community, also because people interested on it are waiting :) As I expressed in the previous mail, 'commons-graph' should be a general purpose library for working with

Re: [pool][dbcp] Ongoing saga of setFactory

2011-06-16 Thread Gary Gregory
I think 2.0 is the opportunity to do this right. Almost like we were designing this from scratch. Making the factory an invariant of the pool sounds good. Otoh If a setFactory method exists it should be implemented fully. The throw an exception impl is pretty smelly. Gary On Jun 16, 2011, at

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote:  Not sure what factors contributed to the stagnation of BCEL development, but I like to think of Commons as the swiss army knife for Java developers--any library with a sharply defined surface area and, even better,

Re: [ALL] BCEL and JCS as Commons components?

2011-06-16 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:54, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: With all honesty - it should switch to ASM and not look back. Xalan uses BCEL too FWIW. I'm not sure how that helps. From what I can tell Xalan is fairly close to moving to

Re: [graph] first random thoughts and considerations

2011-06-16 Thread Arshad Ansari
Hello Simone, Thanks for the update, we have been waiting. Although, I had this question, I don't see the graph being listed as a project under sandbox, now that it is moved there. My questions was related to how to submit patches or bugs. as I don't see the project in Jira as well. Is it ok, if