Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

ghamarjannah...@gmail.com On May 23, 2016 5:47 PM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: > Personally I'd like to see the CoC addressed as well, particularly in > regards to the use of president@ as a potential reporting channel for > abuse. > The CoC has been in place for a while now, and we have a rough guide

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

For the record I do have training in counselling. Its fairly lightweight and basically boils down to knowing how to respond and when to escalate to a specialist. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Ross Gardler Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:06 PM To: Joseph Sch

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

Yes its positive and I've supported it every step, including stating whatever folks decide is best. I'm just saying that the kind of reporting you hope for is unlikely to materialize. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Joseph Schaefer Sent: Sunday, M

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

So whittling down the access to this information from 600 odd members to a handful of people isn't a positive step Ross? We can certainly debate the necessity for an ombudsman alias but that has little to do with the benefits of having a collaborative team of people to deal with this. Keep in

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

I don’t think you’ll see that benefit. Privacy and safety from repudiation is a critical factor. You don't get that with a group sharing experiences and reports. In some cases I have agreed never to reveal the fact a complaint was made. That’s why I have only provided estimated counts. I don’t w

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

Also the reasoning about avoiding one man shows for software projects applies equally well to our ingress reporting strategy. Right now the only person who has acquired any substantial real word experience dealing with such reports is Ross, and perhaps a few other individuals who have proxied r

RE: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

I think Niclas meant “if the President were part of the complaint”, rather than them being part of the problem being solved. An unfortunate misunderstanding ?? I do think your points are valid. My experience supports them. Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Joe Schaefer

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

No the president is definitely not part of the problem Niclas. We're discussing the delivery mechanism for the most part, as well as reasoning about why some people insist on having an officer listed as the "ultimate" reporting mechanism. My own experience dealing with sexual harassment repo

How is the keys page generated?

Hi, Reaching out to comdev as it seems to fall here... How is the page at https://home.apache.org/keys generated? If I fix my fingerprint in ldap, is there a job that needs to run for the page to refresh? John