On 1/15/15, 9:46 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Where are you seeing discouragement of pilot projects?
In the tone and content of the responses on this thread, including this
one where it feels to me you are again using the maintenance and training
costs to
On 1/15/15, 6:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
...*historically*, when this kind of thing has happened (project
implements,
thing becomes critical), gradually it becomes the responsibility of
Infra,
Where are you seeing discouragement of pilot projects? Any volunteer can step
up and deliver any pilot for the foundation on a voluntary basis. We are set up
to do that.
However, if a service stood up by a volunteer becomes a core part of the ASF
then that must be maintained in an ongoing
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
...Infra should be encouraged to learn new things if the ROI is established
by the pilot program...
Of course, but when you have to maintain systems for years the
investment is huge...so the return has to be huge as well.
To put that last sentence in a more positive manner:
The future looks bright and is multi-coloured! But it is shrouded in layers
of mists. Unfortunately, so is the future influx of funds.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based
+1
On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:
Site dev is just a convenience list. There is no committee backing it. ComDev
is the right place.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Daniel
I was thinking of putting the data in a JQuery DataTable, this will make it
searchable and sortable.
Maybe someone else will beat me to it.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: jan imailto:j...@apache.org
Sent: 1/15/2015 3:29 AM
To:
Site dev is just a convenience list. There is no committee backing it. ComDev
is the right place.
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Daniel Grunomailto:humbed...@apache.org
Sent: 1/15/2015 7:49 AM
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org
Maybe we should considering changing the subject as this seems bigger than
just an overhaul of one of the front ends of the ASF?
Yes, it all has to do with the ROI (the benefits at large vs the costs) for
the ASF. And such need to be determined regarding the future, not the
present day or the
Hello,
The following new base data was set for ant-ivy by antoine:
{
category: build-management,
GitRepository: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/ant-ivy.git;,
bug-database: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY;,
description: Apache Ivy is a very powerful
On 1/15/15 3:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
...Missing Q or C thing:
The project is not dead. Bugs do not sit forever with no response.
Questions get answered on user lists...
Thanks - I have reorganized Antoine's
Hello,
The following new base data was set for ant-apacheeasyant by antoine:
{
category: build-management,
GitRepository:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/ant-easyant-tasks.git;,
bug-database: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EASYANT;,
description: Apache
On 01/15/2015 02:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
...QO30 - do we really want individual projects to have / advertise
their own ways to take security reports?...
We do not want that, agreed, but as I want the model to
Hello,
The following new base data was set for ant by antoine:
{
category: build-management,
GitRepository: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/ant.git;,
bug-database:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Ant;,
description: Apache Ant is a
Hello,
The following new base data was set for ant-ivy by antoine:
{
category: build-management,
GitRepository: ttps://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/ant-ivy.git,
bug-database: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY;,
description: Apache Ivy is a very powerful
On 1/15/15 3:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
...QO30 - do we really want individual projects to have / advertise
their own ways to take security reports?...
We do not want that, agreed, but as I want the model to be
Hi,
Some (very) minor things.
CD10 - distributed at no charge to the public. while this may be true at
Apache it doesn't have to be the case. 3rd parties wanting to this model may
find this a stumbling block.
CD40 - Perhaps a footnote? for code donated to Apache the history before Apache
may
Hello,
The following new base data was set for ant-props-ant-library by antoine:
{
category: build-management,
GitRepository:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/ant-antlibs-props.git;,
bug-database:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=Ant;,
Hmmm, maybe someone can look at
https://jquery-datatables-row-grouping.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/collapsibleGroups.html
and work out something nifty?
On 2015-01-15 20:24, Daniel Gruno wrote:
On 2015-01-15 17:00, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
I was thinking of putting the data in a
Hiya folks,
as part of trying out the new projects site, I have set up a VM inside
our infrastructure for us to use.
the VM is called projects-vm.apache.org and is tied to LDAP much like
people.apache.org is these days, thus you will need to have your public
ssh key in your LDAP profile in
See inline.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
I was probing the notion that it
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
...Missing Q or C thing:
The project is not dead. Bugs do not sit forever with no response.
Questions get answered on user lists...
Thanks - I have reorganized Antoine's suggestions about this to be
QU50 The project
Oh, duh, it's the maturity model. Well, in context I found it confusing.
-- Lefty
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Lefty Leverenz leftylever...@gmail.com
wrote:
In CO10, what does according to this model mean?
*CO10*
The project has a well-known homepage that points to all the information
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:
You can virtually put anything you like as a category, the system will
adapt to whatever you enter.
If you want a new category called bugtracking, just append it to the
categories field; content, bugtracking and it will
Just a note/reminder: Whatever you push to svn goes public within 3
seconds, so feel free to use the site for your tests if you like.
With regards,
Daniel.
On 2015-01-15 09:07, Daniel Gruno wrote:
Hiya folks,
as part of trying out the new projects site, I have set up a VM inside
our
Hello,
The following new base data was set for corinthia by jani:
{
category: library,
GitRepository:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-corinthia.git;,
bug-database: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COR;,
description: Corinthia is a
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
...QO30 - do we really want individual projects to have / advertise
their own ways to take security reports?...
We do not want that, agreed, but as I want the model to be usable by
non-Apache projects as well I'm trying
Hello,
The following new base data was set for corinthia by humbedooh:
{
category: library,
GitRepository:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-corinthia.git;,
bug-database: ,
description: Corinthia is a toolkit/application for converting between
and
Hi,
Thanks for the comments in this thread, I (think I) have incorporated
them in revision 14 of
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApacheProjectMaturityModel
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
CD40: perhaps change 'previous version' to 'released
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Rob Vesse rve...@dotnetrdf.org wrote:
...
I think the LC50 is actually correct but could perhaps be phrased better...
I've used your suggestion, thanks!
QU30:
Agreed, some projects may not do anything that is attack prone...
Added a footnote
...Should there
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Lefty Leverenz
leftylever...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, duh, it's the maturity model. Well, in context I found it confusing
Indeed - I have changed CO10 to read ...according to this maturity model.
Thanks!
-Bertrand
Hello,
The following new base data was set for bloodhound by rjollos:
{
category: content,
GitRepository: ,
bug-database: http://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/;,
description: Apache Bloodhound is an open source collaboration tool to
track the progress of and help
Hello,
The following new base data was set for httpd by humbedooh:
{
category: network-server, http, httpd-module,
GitRepository: ,
bug-database: http://httpd.apache.org/bug_report.html;,
description: The Apache HTTP Server is an open-source HTTP server for
modern
2015-01-15 9:19 GMT+01:00 no-re...@projects.apache.org:
Hello,
The following new base data was set for bloodhound by rjollos:
{
category: content,
GitRepository: ,
bug-database: http://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/;,
description: Apache Bloodhound is an open
You can virtually put anything you like as a category, the system will
adapt to whatever you enter.
If you want a new category called bugtracking, just append it to the
categories field; content, bugtracking and it will (eventually) show
up as a new category when your browse projects :)
With
On 15/01/2015 11:33, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Rob Vesse rve...@dotnetrdf.org wrote:
...
I think the LC50 is actually correct but could perhaps be phrased
better...
I've used your suggestion, thanks!
Great
QU30:
Agreed, some
On 01/14/2015 06:42 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
I was probing the notion that it might be to the advantage of the OFBiz
community to just volunteer something instead of being asked. Maybe the
folks on this list know the other Apache projects better than I do, but I
wouldn’t even know what to ask
Hi,
There were several comments about QU40 in the
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ApacheProjectMaturityModel draft,
which currently reads
QU40
The project puts a high priority on backwards compatibility and aims
to document
any incompatible changes and provide tools and documentation to
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
...*historically*, when this kind of thing has happened (project implements,
thing becomes critical), gradually it becomes the responsibility of Infra,
not of the project, to do ongoing maintenance
Yes, this is why I'm
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