Re: [jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeners use cases

2024-02-15 Thread Phil Steitz
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 6:38 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > > > >> "However, having an idea of what red flags we're looking for > >> in a project can be a helpful way to start looking for places to mentor, > >> and sharpen, our projects." > >> > >> That is absolutely the wrong message to give. Who is

Re: [jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeners use cases

2024-02-14 Thread Phil Steitz
t; > > > > > Key: COMDEV-543 > > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543 > > Project: Community Development > > Issue Type: Improvement > > Components: Comdev

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-13 Thread Phil Steitz
wrote: > Thanks, Phil. Patches applied. This is all good stuff. > > — > Rich Bowen > rbo...@rcbowen.com > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > > > > Sorry, last message got away from me. The point of the use cases is to >

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
hat that means? How is it impacting the community? Both "not a problem" and "yes, this is a problem" examples could be added, as well as some info on what the Sharpener is allowed to question / how deeply they should engage in tweaking internal PMC processes. Phil On Mon, Feb 12, 2

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
OK, I added a brain dump on the use cases. This is in the spirit of "good ideas, bad code" ;) Phil On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 2:06 PM Phil Steitz wrote: > I just added a patch to the readme and to add me to the members list. > Perfectly OK if the patch is rejected. I ca

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeniers use cases

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-543: --- Attachment: use-cases.md > Sharpeniers use cases > - > >

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeners use cases

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-543: --- Summary: Sharpeners use cases (was: Sharpeniers use cases) > Sharpeners use ca

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeniers use cases

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-543: --- Priority: Minor (was: Major) > Sharpeniers use ca

[jira] [Created] (COMDEV-543) Sharpeniers use cases

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
Phil Steitz created COMDEV-543: -- Summary: Sharpeniers use cases Key: COMDEV-543 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-543 Project: Community Development Issue Type: Improvement

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
I just added a patch to the readme and to add me to the members list. Perfectly OK if the patch is rejected. I can see both sides of this. I just want to be very careful not to encourage too much private discussion and "community adjustment" happening without visibility or input of community

[jira] [Updated] (COMDEV-542) More public tone for sharpeners

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-542?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Phil Steitz updated COMDEV-542: --- Attachment: sharpeners.patch > More public tone for sharpen

[jira] [Created] (COMDEV-542) More public tone for sharpeners

2024-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz (Jira)
Phil Steitz created COMDEV-542: -- Summary: More public tone for sharpeners Key: COMDEV-542 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-542 Project: Community Development Issue Type

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-11 Thread Phil Steitz
gh consensus on what is in/out of scope before we start this. Phil > > Rich > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 20:49 Phil Steitz wrote: > > > Thanks, Rich. I think we have been headed in this direction for some > time > > now and something like this is needed. Many thanks

Re: [WG: Sharpeners] Proposed - Sharpeners

2024-02-09 Thread Phil Steitz
Thanks, Rich. I think we have been headed in this direction for some time now and something like this is needed. Many thanks for coming up with a concrete proposal. I have one suggestion for improvement, which is in part a problem statement. Instead of just subscribing to the private@ list, I

Re: Update to Apache.org

2023-07-16 Thread Phil Steitz
Many thanks to all who worked on this! Phil On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 9:25 AM Melissa Logan wrote: > Hello: > > The ASF Marketing & Publicity team has made updates to the navigation > on the Foundation's website, as well as content updates to pages > related to the navigation changes. The goal

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-07-05 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 from another Commons contributor drowning in the flood of cruft on commons-dev. Shorter subject lines would be great. I don't know if the tooling would support or can be customized for Commons, but one thing that would help would be to uniformly drop the word "Commons", so we go back to what

Re: [math][lang][text] - need advice on where to put a method

2023-07-02 Thread Phil Steitz
Hi Dimitrios, Thanks for your interest in contributing. All of the components you mention are part of Apache Commons, which has a single dev list. You should post your query there. To subscribe to that list, click the subscribe link in this page: https://commons.apache.org/mail-lists.html

Re: Reviewers Needed for ApacheCon Community Track

2022-05-21 Thread Phil Steitz
I would be happy to assist with this, Sharan. Phil On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 9:04 AM Sharan Foga wrote: > Hi Karanjeet > > Thanks for volunteering. We will need to identify you via your email > address so I will use the one you are using here.You will need to log into > the cfp system

Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

2022-03-05 Thread Phil Steitz
ave friendly lawyers whom I trust with it, and I run a business before, so I know you need to involve lawyers there. I am sure that might be one of the obstacles for multiple individuals who would like to set up similar, direct contracts with the stakeholders, but do not know where to start and what to look

Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

2022-03-04 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/4/22 11:28 AM, Jarek Potiuk wrote: Definitely another good way to support projects. I think 2. and 3. originating in user companies can actually help foster vendor neutrality as these companies are really just users. Whether the people are employees or contractors is not important.

Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

2022-03-04 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/4/22 4:08 AM, Jarek Potiuk wrote: 1. We can all afford to volunteer our discretionary time as we see fit. Not just rich or retired people have discretionary time. 2. Employers can support OSS communities by allowing their employees to contribute as part of their jobs, but not in a

Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

2022-03-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/3/22 3:20 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: I'd like to see a better solution proposed for maintaining vendor neutrality while funding the individuals working on the project. If every workable solution is denied, then the only people who can afford to work on Apache projects would be rich people,

Re: Thoughts on alternative communication channels for our communities

2022-02-22 Thread Phil Steitz
Really thoughtful and insightful message, Rich.  I agree with your main point and see kind of the same thing in the mirror.  That said, I agree with the requirements that Mark Thomas has posted several times (which thankfully, are easily found in the list archives :). I have one comment on

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Phil Steitz
On 4/17/19 6:05 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:04 PM Joan Touzet wrote: I'm generally in agreement with Rich, Jim, Shane, Sam and the other "grey beards" who have responded on this thread already. We recognize the individual, not the company, and the individual gets the

Re: Paper on Apache Way Culture

2019-01-14 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/13/19 7:13 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi All A while ago I mentioned that I was doing a paper based on the ASF and the Apache Way culture https://s.apache.org/XLXi Well it is done and for those of you not following the Kibble mailing list (since I used Kibble as my main research tool :-),

Re: Onboarding Experience, Knowledge Architecture, Events and D

2018-12-19 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/19/18 12:41 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy wrote: Hello everyone! My name is Aizhamal and I joined the Open Source Strategy team at Google Cloud. I will work with Gris Cuevas (g...@apache.org) on two main projects: - New Contributor Experience - I’ll develop resources that will

Re: Link share: well done etiquette FAQ

2018-08-03 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/3/18 6:17 AM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: Hi, all; During my random and incoherent stumblings around the Internet I came across a really great FAQ for discussion etiquette and figured I would share: https://discourse.pi-hole.net/faq I really don't have a call to action by sharing it, as I'm

Re: Apache Way talk in April

2018-04-08 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/26/18 8:09 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: > Hi, > > a couple weeks ago I was invited to give a talk on the Apache Way at > Dataworks Summit here in Berlin mid-April. > > I would love to get a second pair of eyes check the stuff I've put together > so I didn't include any non-sense nor forgot

Re: [ApacheCon] Keynote suggestions

2018-02-14 Thread Phil Steitz
There is one guy... Knows a few people here... Doing "open, interesting stuff"... Inspirational... brian@ Phil On 2/14/18 1:52 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > It's funny - sometimes when I mention keynotes on members@, I get > a hundred suggestions, and sometimes - like this time - I get > nothing

Re: Issues with hosting unpublished SNAPSHOT then using it in a release candidate

2018-02-08 Thread Phil Steitz
Hi Lewis, Did you build the snapshot jar yourself?  If not, where did you get it?  Are you bundling the compiled jar with your distribution? It would be much better to either upgrade to a released version (the best alternative) or if that is too painful, grab the sources, repackage them and

Re: Doing open source while maintaining your sanity

2017-12-11 Thread Phil Steitz
On 12/8/17 7:20 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > Hi Isabel, > > Since sustainable development is very much in Apache's interest as a > foundation, I believe this is an excellent idea. > > My first thoughts on where this could go: > 1.) This belongs somewhere under https://community.apache.org > 2.) It

Re: KAM is not drunk was Re: Wristbands instead of stickers?

2017-08-10 Thread Phil Steitz
On 8/10/17 11:04 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 8/10/2017 1:57 PM, fred bucheit wrote: >> Someone at apache placed my name in an email bank so that all >> apache emails >> >> come to me along with all the other recipients. It was done for >> retribution because I complained. >> >> >> Your email

Re: Vetoes for New Committers??

2017-03-29 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/29/17 6:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> ...it speaks of "3 +1 and no vetoes"... Is it really >> "typical" that projects use vetoes for new committers?... > I like the "vetoes are only for code commits" rule

Re: Open Source class... starting tomorrow

2017-01-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/21/17 8:57 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 1/21/17 3:31 AM, Scott Wilson wrote: >> Hi Daniel, >> >> When I taught a first year undergraduate course on FOSS the major syllabus >> topics were: >> >> - Community >> - Communications >> -

Re: Open Source class... starting tomorrow

2017-01-21 Thread Phil Steitz
roper >> terminology. I will also plan to spend a class each on build tools and >> dependency management as those are both great tooics to include. >> -- >> Daniel Ruggeri >> >> >> Original Message >> From: Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmai

Re: Open Source class... starting tomorrow

2017-01-21 Thread Phil Steitz
the syllabus to reflect the proper >> terminology. I will also plan to spend a class each on build tools and >> dependency management as those are both great tooics to include. >> -- >> Daniel Ruggeri >> >> >> Original Message >> From: Phil Steit

Re: Working Ecosystems at ASF

2017-01-18 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/18/17 8:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Raphael, > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Raphael Bircher > wrote: >> ...Why ASF dosen't found Developers?. Some people say, because to non-profit >> status. Others say, this are our rules > "These are our

Re: Open Source class... starting tomorrow

2017-01-18 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/17/17 10:58 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 1/16/17 5:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: >> Hi, all; >> >> Digging up "ancient" history on this one >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/28c8decf60ec3c79c97a62c936ec9b816da841eb3fb655144dd219b

Re: Open Source class... starting tomorrow

2017-01-17 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/16/17 5:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: > Hi, all; > > Digging up "ancient" history on this one > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/28c8decf60ec3c79c97a62c936ec9b816da841eb3fb655144dd219ba@1430955768@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E > > > I'm happy to share that tomorrow begins the first

Re: Adding some statistics to projects.a.o?

2016-10-26 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/26/16 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > I added an initial stats page at > https://projects.apache.org/statistics.html - assuming no one objects, > I'll add it to the top menu of the other pages in a day or so. > > Do peruse - anything we need to add/edit? Maven is not a programming language.

Re: Addition to the project maturity model

2016-10-01 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/29/16 6:25 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > >> All, >> >> After a discussion on the general@incubator.a.o mailing list [1], I'd >> like to propose the following addition to the project maturity model. >> >> RE50 >> The

Re: Getting planetapache back

2016-06-01 Thread Phil Steitz
gt;>> An: Apache Community Dev >>> Betreff: Re: Getting planetapache back >>> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On 5/31/16 4:31 AM, Nick Burch wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2

Re: Getting planetapache back

2016-05-31 Thread Phil Steitz
On 5/31/16 4:31 AM, Nick Burch wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Phil Steitz wrote: >> I will take a shot at getting it running if I can get help >> getting a VM or host somewhere to set it up on and DNS set up to >> point to it. Any suggestions on where to put it? > > How

Re: Getting planetapache back

2016-05-30 Thread Phil Steitz
On 5/30/16 6:12 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > The blog aggregator that used to be serve from > http://planet.apache.org/ is now defunct. It was running from > minotaur, the old p.a.o box and as minotaur is being prepared for > retirement, the service has been shut down. The

Getting planetapache back

2016-05-30 Thread Phil Steitz
The blog aggregator that used to be serve from http://planet.apache.org/ is now defunct. It was running from minotaur, the old p.a.o box and as minotaur is being prepared for retirement, the service has been shut down. There are links to this service scattered throughout the apache web site,

Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-18 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/18/15 5:53 AM, Claude Warren wrote: I prefer the mailing list because it pushes new concepts to me. Git and such requires that I work harder to get the information. Most of the Apache mailing lists have a high signal to noise ratio. And even the signals I am not interested in don't

Re: A maturity model for Apache projects

2015-01-15 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/15/15 3:39 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: ...Missing Q or C thing: The project is not dead. Bugs do not sit forever with no response. Questions get answered on user lists... Thanks - I have reorganized Antoine's

Re: A maturity model for Apache projects

2015-01-15 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/15/15 3:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: ...QO30 - do we really want individual projects to have / advertise their own ways to take security reports?... We do not want that, agreed, but as I want the model

Re: Understanding the commit-then-review workflow

2014-07-08 Thread Phil Steitz
On Jul 8, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: The idea of CTR is that the repo that the commit is made to is not in the direct path to a release. Thus, one can commit to the repo/branch as a sort of shared sandbox. Not necessarily. Some projects do CTR right up to

Re: Fwd: Miscellaneous sessions that still need labels

2014-03-17 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/17/14, 6:42 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: I could use some help on these. Can someone suggest what tags/labels/tracks should be associated with the first three of these? (I can guess the fourth one.) If there is any possibility of tweaking labels, we might consider changing logging / nosql to

Re: ApacheCon NA 2014 Schedule

2014-02-28 Thread Phil Steitz
Many, many thanks to all who helped get the talks reviewed and schedule set. I was in a hurry preparing the abstract for my talk to hit the deadline. I would like to tweak the abstract a little, but the site does not let me do that. I bet some others may want to do some edits to theirs too.

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
On 2/11/14, 11:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The core question for me is do we want to continue down this path of attempting to be all things to all people with no common culture or values or processes, or is

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
On 2/12/14, 7:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: I know this looks old-fashioned, even downright anachronistic to push-hourly-from-CI people; but deciding *what* to release *as a community* is an important responsibility

Fwd: Re: Content Committee, ApacheCon 2014

2013-12-16 Thread Phil Steitz
Responding to the right list... Original Message Subject:Re: Content Committee, ApacheCon 2014 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:18:42 -0800 From: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com To: priv...@commons.apache.org On 12/12/13, 11:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: Dear PMCs