Re: [plugman] js install

FYI, I've added a bunch of issues based on a brain dump of outstanding tasks that Braden wrote up in plugman's future branch. Tagged the issues in JIRA as "future", and they are also noted at the bottom of plugman/future FUTURE.md under the TODO section. We're pretty damn close but missing tests fo

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

I think as a first pass its ok to do things the brute force way until we find a better way. And by expensive, what are we talking about? Seconds, at most? Not a big deal IMO. Can you expand on the variables thing, Anis? On 3/26/13 11:00 AM, "Anis KADRI" wrote: >Yeah that works but it's expensiv

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

Thanks Shaz, updated the wiki article. On 3/26/13 4:07 PM, "Shazron" wrote: >* log is only the Simulator >* build release/debug -- last one clobbers? depending on how the parsing >is >implemented > > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > >> OK, I've done some rehash of the propos

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

* log is only the Simulator * build release/debug -- last one clobbers? depending on how the parsing is implemented On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > OK, I've done some rehash of the proposal and put it up on the wiki: > http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

Noted in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-2163 On 3/26/13 11:34 AM, "Braden Shepherdson" wrote: >+1 to having ~/.cordova/thing/name/version. I know we name our releases >foo-version, but this is an unambiguous split on a character that isn't >legal in plugin names. > >Braden > > >On Tue,

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

OK, I've done some rehash of the proposal and put it up on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign Please take a look and post back if you have questions, disagreement, want to +1 it, etc. At the top there is a generic multi-device flow that can solve a lot of the consis

Re: App-Harness Description

+1 for WebKeg On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > omg. yes! > > cordova-webkeg > > I can see the Yohei style app icon already.. > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Campos wrote: > > > > On 26/03/2013, at 16:13, Filip Maj wrote: > > > >> My vote is for WebKeg > >

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Welcome guys! On 26 March 2013 13:18, Giorgio Natili wrote: > Welcome and congrats! > > On 3/26/13 7:06 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: > > >lulz > > > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > >> O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P > >> > >> On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote:

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Welcome and congrats! On 3/26/13 7:06 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >lulz > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Filip Maj wrote: >> O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P >> >> On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: >> >>>Congratulations! >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Michal Mocny >>

Re: App-Harness Description

omg. yes! cordova-webkeg I can see the Yohei style app icon already.. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Campos wrote: > > On 26/03/2013, at 16:13, Filip Maj wrote: > >> My vote is for WebKeg > > THIS > -- > qmx >

Re: App-Harness Description

On 26/03/2013, at 16:13, Filip Maj wrote: > My vote is for WebKeg THIS -- qmx

Re: App-Harness Description

My vote is for WebKeg On 3/26/13 11:57 AM, "Benn Mapes" wrote: >We could really name it anything, I liked all the suggestions, here are >more: >Cordova World >Cordova Dev >Cordova Xing >Build Cordova >Harness Cordova >C-Street Dev >.. >just to add to the confusion > >~Benn > > >On Tue, M

Re: App-Harness Description

We could really name it anything, I liked all the suggestions, here are more: Cordova World Cordova Dev Cordova Xing Build Cordova Harness Cordova C-Street Dev .. just to add to the confusion ~Benn On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Michael Brooks wrote: > haha, so Harness it is? ;) > >

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

+1 to having ~/.cordova/thing/name/version. I know we name our releases foo-version, but this is an unambiguous split on a character that isn't legal in plugin names. Braden On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Michael Brooks wrote: > > > > ~/.cordova/// > > > I originally wrote this but expected

Re: Moving www into an app folder

<3 all around. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Anis KADRI wrote: > I like this proposal too :-P > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > > I'm into this proposal fwiw too. Think we need to get > > plugman/jsinstall/plugins for all things covered before we tread back > >

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

lulz On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P > > On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: > >>Congratulations! >> >> >>On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: >> >>> Welcome! Now get back to work :) >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

Yeah that works but it's expensive and also would require users to re-enter some variables (in the case of C2M, facebook-connect and maps). On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > What if plugman worked a little more naively: on uninstall of plugin A, it > runs through all plugins

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

What if plugman worked a little more naively: on uninstall of plugin A, it runs through all plugins and uninstalls them, then runs through and installs all plugins except for plugin A again. On 3/26/13 10:52 AM, "Anis KADRI" wrote: >Yeah. I've talking about that specific problem with one of the

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

Yeah. I've talking about that specific problem with one of the PhoneGap::Build guys. It's not easy. It is also not limited to permissions but to every possible configuration entry including configuration that has runtime variables in them (package names, api keys, etc...). The easy and obvious solu

Re: Mobile Spec File Tests Query string

just went over this briefly with Brian, resolveLocalFileSystemURI is our desired inclusion to or form of the w3 spec due to our use case being outside the browser sandbox. So we just make sure URI conforms to URL? in which case, original question: is there any semantic reason for a query tag at t

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

> > ~/.cordova/// I originally wrote this but expected some backlash on breaking our - convention. I agree, it makes the tool parsing easier. One thing, though: cordova-cli currently runs up the file tree searching > for '.cordova' to identify a cordova-cli-generated project root (like > git).

Re: Moving www into an app folder

I like this proposal too :-P On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > I'm into this proposal fwiw too. Think we need to get > plugman/jsinstall/plugins for all things covered before we tread back > into CLI land. > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > > Thank

Re: Mobile Spec File Tests Query string

O that¹s the one! On 3/26/13 10:29 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: >yeah, couldn't track that down either? Anyone? Paging >"resolveLocalFileSystemURI" spec? > >the W3 spec has resolveLocalFileSystemURL only >leSystemURL-void-DOM

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Congrats! More committers! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Lorin Beer wrote: > oh sure, just throw me on at the end :) > You owe me a beer, Fil. > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > > > O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P > > > > On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote

Re: Mobile Spec File Tests Query string

yeah, couldn't track that down either? Anyone? Paging "resolveLocalFileSystemURI" spec? the W3 spec has resolveLocalFileSystemURL only

Re: App-Harness Description

haha, so Harness it is? ;) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > cordova-kink > > PROS: > would probably get lots of downloads in the app store > > CONS: > would probably not get accepted into the app store > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Michal Mocny > wrote: > > I like

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

oh sure, just throw me on at the end :) You owe me a beer, Fil. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P > > On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: > > >Congratulations! > > > > > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Michal Mocny > wrote: > > >

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

Yep, on it, and agree. One thing, though: cordova-cli currently runs up the file tree searching for '.cordova' to identify a cordova-cli-generated project root (like git). Can we rename the cache folder to something other than .cordova? .cordovalibs or something? On 3/26/13 10:22 AM, "Brian LeRou

Re: Mobile Spec File Tests Query string

I'm pretty sure the test simply follows the spec.. Which I can't find (where the f is resolvelocalfilesystemuri spec'ed?) On 3/26/13 10:18 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: >Hey guys, > >In file.tests.js, line 267: >https://github.com/apache/cordova-mobile-spec/blob/master/autotest/tests/f >ile.tests.js#L

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

O yeah and welcome Lorin Beer too :P On 3/26/13 10:21 AM, "Lorin Beer" wrote: >Congratulations! > > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > >> Welcome! Now get back to work :) >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Brooks >> wrote: >> >> > Welcome to the team! >> >

Re: [plugman] js install

fuckin eh, sounds awesome---thx man On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > I added the plugin-loading code there (see scripts/plugin_loader.js) but I > wasn't aware that XHRs to file:// URLs always have status 0 instead of > 200/404/etc. Andrew fixed that today, but we deci

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

Ok. I really like Mike's proposal. Think we should do this. Its solves most of our woe. Slight caveat that I would like the cache to be in the format of: ~/.cordova/// (To prevent weird string splitting logic/bugs emerging.) Fil: can you backlog this? I think it should come AFTER we finish fixi

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Congratulations! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > Welcome! Now get back to work :) > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Brooks > wrote: > > > Welcome to the team! > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Grieve > > wrote: > > > > > Yes! Awesome to have

Re: Moving www into an app folder

I'm into this proposal fwiw too. Think we need to get plugman/jsinstall/plugins for all things covered before we tread back into CLI land. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > Thanks Fil. > > Theres a long list of feature requests we've just pushed on y'all so I > understand. >

Mobile Spec File Tests Query string

Hey guys, In file.tests.js, line 267: https://github.com/apache/cordova-mobile-spec/blob/master/autotest/tests/file.tests.js#L267 there is a URI passed to resolveLocalFileSystemURI with a query string appended to the end. The test is meant to return a valid entry. BB7 and BB10 currently flunk th

Re: App-Harness Description

cordova-kink PROS: would probably get lots of downloads in the app store CONS: would probably not get accepted into the app store On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Michal Mocny wrote: > I like the kinky version. > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > >> Heh, DX sounds *v

Re: [plugman] js install

I added the plugin-loading code there (see scripts/plugin_loader.js) but I wasn't aware that XHRs to file:// URLs always have status 0 instead of 200/404/etc. Andrew fixed that today, but we decided not to try to cherry-pick that change into 2.6.x. It's harmless for the main function of cordova-js

Re: App-Harness Description

[?] On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > I like the kinky version. > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > > Heh, DX sounds *very* Adobe. (Remember Flash MX?) Meanwhile Devtool > > sounds very Google. > > > > Either way I like both more than calling it

Re: App-Harness Description

I like the kinky version. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > Heh, DX sounds *very* Adobe. (Remember Flash MX?) Meanwhile Devtool > sounds very Google. > > Either way I like both more than calling it a harness. ;) > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Andrew Grieve > wrote:

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

> Arguments for or against either approach can usually be countered, because > they solve the exact same problem. Agreed. We have a working tested solution so lets keep it there until such time as we see problems emerge. > The platform resource problem should not be solved with the merges > dir

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Welcome! Now get back to work :) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Michael Brooks wrote: > Welcome to the team! > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Grieve > wrote: > > > Yes! Awesome to have you all on the team! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE > > > > > > On Tue, Mar

Re: [plugman] js install

Braden: whats happening in cordova-js that is broken/being heavily refactored? On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > You'll need the future branch of cordova-cli and plugman, and to go through > a bit of a dance to get those two installed and npm linked properly. The > dan

Re: App-Harness Description

Heh, DX sounds *very* Adobe. (Remember Flash MX?) Meanwhile Devtool sounds very Google. Either way I like both more than calling it a harness. ;) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Awesome! > > Yep - it's editable so that you can edit it :) > > I like Cordova DX, or maybe "C

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Welcome to the team! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Yes! Awesome to have you all on the team! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson >wrote: > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

The first email said that the docs say it does, but Andrew wanted to confirm (not sure what had him questioning the docs). -Michal On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Jesse MacFadyen wrote: > The docs should be a strong suggestion as well. > > Cheers, > Jesse > > Sent from my iPhone5 > > On 2013

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Yes! Awesome to have you all on the team! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > Congratulations! > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > > \o/ > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Filip Maj wrote: >

Re: App-Harness Description

Awesome! Yep - it's editable so that you can edit it :) I like Cordova DX, or maybe "Cordova DevTool" On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Michael Brooks wrote: > Hey Andrew, > > This is exactly what I had planned as well. It's as if we read each other's > minds. > > I'll go through the document

Re: [plugman] js install

You'll need the future branch of cordova-cli and plugman, and to go through a bit of a dance to get those two installed and npm linked properly. The dance is as follows: cd plugman npm install sudo npm link cd ../cordova-cli npm install sudo npm link npm link plugman Now when you run 'cordova' yo

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

Congratulations! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > \o/ > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > > Just wanted to send out a quick congratulatory note to the public dev > > list. We've voted in four new committers in the past week or two, I'm > very > > exci

Re: Welcome to our new committers!

\o/ On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > Just wanted to send out a quick congratulatory note to the public dev > list. We've voted in four new committers in the past week or two, I'm very > excited about this! > > Don Coleman, Max Woghiren, James Jong, and Tommy Carlos-Williams: we

Re: [plugman] js install

Use the future branch of plugman. That's where braden is putting the symbol mapping work into. On 3/26/13 9:09 AM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >Steve has plugman working with devicemotion plugin. Happy days! Its >time he ripped the JS out of cordova-js and put it in the plugin. But >does plugman suppo

Re: App-Harness Description

Hey Andrew, This is exactly what I had planned as well. It's as if we read each other's minds. I'll go through the document a second time and add some comments. Do you mind if I edit the document? What is this thing going to be called? cordova-app-harness sounds kinky. For naming, my stance ha

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

sounds good On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Marcel Kinard wrote: > Here is what I suggest: > > There is no content in those repos now (except for device-motion), not even a > README.md. So instead of pointing people to an empty repo, the folks here can > do the initial extraction, then we can

[plugman] js install

Steve has plugman working with devicemotion plugin. Happy days! Its time he ripped the JS out of cordova-js and put it in the plugin. But does plugman support js installation? What needs happening to make it so?

Welcome to our new committers!

Just wanted to send out a quick congratulatory note to the public dev list. We've voted in four new committers in the past week or two, I'm very excited about this! Don Coleman, Max Woghiren, James Jong, and Tommy Carlos-Williams: welcome, stoked to have you folks join, and congratulations!

Re: device motion plugin

Unfortunate as we thought 2.6 was realistic a few weeks ago but I echo the sentiment. Too soon! Going to kick up a fresh thread on JS. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Shazron wrote: > I don't think it should go in for 2.6.0 as well, for the already mentioned > reasons. > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013

Re: App-Harness Description

Looks great Andrew. I'd add Ripple and device mirroring as part of this. (More than one device navigates in concert.) What is this thing going to be called? cordova-app-harness sounds kinky. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Hey Michael (and anyone else interested), > > I'

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

As a heads up, I'm not trying to sell the naming convention approach. Simply, I've used both approaches for multiple projects between 2009-2012. I've found the merges/ to become confusing, error prone, and encouraging a platform-specific coding mindset. I can see the benefits, but they seem somewh

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

Hello. Although I'm new to Appache... I've been programming since the 1980s.. I've always found foo much information can slow the programming process down.. so I agree with Andrew Grieves... best to get thins up and running. Thanks. Shirley On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote:

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

Here is what I suggest: There is no content in those repos now (except for device-motion), not even a README.md. So instead of pointing people to an empty repo, the folks here can do the initial extraction, then we can advertise them and ask for help. The folks skilled at doing the initial extr

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

Jesse, while I respect our mutual disdain for the Bruins fan that is Mapes, it would be more helpful for all of us to know those implications so we can help while you're out! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Shirley Adams wrote: > [?] > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jesse MacFadyen > wro

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

I'm somewhat agonizing this. On one hand: we need all the help we can get! On the other: its complicated. We need to extract each plugin from their respective native platform, and cordova-js, and then ensure gluing it all together still works. Ideally we start extracting mobile-spec too but maybe t

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

Sounds good to add them - but I'd actually prefer not to encourage contributions until we've at least got one plugin fully working. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > Hate to 'make work' but we might want to drop a README in them > explaining what is supposed to go there (m

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

I can see the benefits, but they seem somewhat minor, so I'd prefer the compartmentalization of platform files. If I'm working on a specific platform, I can work in that platform's directory. Having the files spread out in a monolithic directory—especially once an app supports more than a couple

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

So, what would be better? On Tuesday, March 26, 2013, Giorgio Natili wrote: > The naming convention seems confusing also to me especially on big > projects. > > On 3/25/13 10:46 PM, "Brian LeRoux" > wrote: > > >I'm apprehensive about returning to a naming convention. In a larger > >app this would

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

[?] On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jesse MacFadyen wrote: > Benn, > Leave it for now, there are deeper implications to removing it. We can > discuss more here once I am back to work. > > > > Cheers, > Jesse > > Sent from my iPhone5 > > On 2013-03-25, at 10:36 PM, Benn Mapes wrote: > > Yah,

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

Benn, Leave it for now, there are deeper implications to removing it. We can discuss more here once I am back to work. Cheers, Jesse Sent from my iPhone5 On 2013-03-25, at 10:36 PM, Benn Mapes wrote: Yah, the difference is that Windows Phone has multiple of these templates so that's why i

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Lorin Beer wrote: > > Simon, is the concern that users will continue to use WebSQL in > Cordova/PhoneGap apps after the polyfill is removed, which will then break > on specific releases of Android? Exactly! Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

>Ah. Then I'll shut up ;) Please don't! The input is appreciated, and the clarification worth mentioning. >Mmm ice floes as a canadian, I can vouch for the complete accuracy of everything in that video. Make sure to go see our national igloo on your next visit to downtown Canada! On Mon, Mar 2

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

The naming convention seems confusing also to me especially on big projects. On 3/25/13 10:46 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >I'm apprehensive about returning to a naming convention. In a larger >app this would lead to a very cluttered dir. > >The other consideration for ./merges are other assets: ic