It is (perhaps) fortuitous that this issue comes up at this time.
I have struggled to imagine a thoughtful value proposition for DeltaSpike
targeting our 700+ developers on six continents (that don't necessarily use
English as a first language). The subtle distinction between a CDI-container
The soon to be released Justify Open Source project supporting rule-based
CDI JUnit testing is now briefly documented for System Engineers at
http://pedcentral.com/justify/ . It now depends on DeltaSpike v1.6.1.
We appreciate any feedback that can be rendered before the GA release by
those
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Marvin Toll commented on DELTASPIKE-1157:
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Thanks John
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Marvin Toll commented on DELTASPIKE-1157:
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Good clarification/elaboration
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Marvin Toll commented on DELTASPIKE-1157:
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If this is not going to work:
@Override
, 2016 8:36 AM
override to add query hints.
Marvin,
I guess you're looking for this page?
http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/data.html#QueryMethodExpressions
John
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 7:57 AM Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com
<mailto:marvint...@gtcgroup.com>
John,
Let me express my root concern… and see if it valid or I’m seeing a concern
that does not exist.
If we have 700 plus or minus 200 developers on six continents… how do we
express to them the use of this particular syntax? That is, can we point to an
Internet page
John,
I've Googled briefly (and unsuccessfully) for this syntax; is it backed by a
specification?
_Marvin
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From: John D. Ament (JIRA) [mailto:j...@apache.org]
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I just ran a quick test. I was able to get it working
over to Java 7
Hi Marvin,
Thanks for the input. You can find our discussion/vote thread from last month
here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltaspike-dev/201603.mbox/%3CCAOqetn_vo69sx-yQjLt%3DQpfdRXgXVqu7NiobanLgXKOOr6Co0Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E
The curious thing about your note
A data point: Ford Motor Company is on Java 6. Given our portfolio of 4,000
applications (a subset of which are Java) - it is difficult to know how long a
migration to Java 7 will take. It was scheduled to begin in calendar year 2016
- the current "begin" target is 2017.
_Marvin
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:58 AM
To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org
Cc: Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com>
Subject: Re: CdiRunner --> Rule
hi @ all,
yes - we discussed it several times, however, so far there was not enough time
(+ concrete demand) to add a rule (which sup
@deltaspike.apache.org; marvint...@gtcgroup.com
Subject: Re: CdiRunner --> Rule
Marvin,
Definitely interesting. I've considered such an approach before, but never saw
it implemented, so kudos. There's a few things I see missing.
- Examples. How do I use these things? What does a t
DeltaSpike Colleagues,
We haven't shared this until now. since there was not a lot to talk about
until it was working.
Ford has partnered with an Open Source team to utilize a 100% rule-based
testing approach that wraps JUnit 4. As part of this effort, the CdiRuner
was mostly eliminated in
At the risk of demonstrating a lack of adequate context to contribute to the
discussion...
One preference expressed at our shop is to eliminate the notion of "defaulting"
to an EntityManager. That is, pursue an API that provides explicit readability
as to which
Without having the benefit of "test driving" the change, it seems to make a lot
of sense to me. Any approach enabling direct access to the (native) JPA API
can only be beneficial when it is impossible to imagine all of the different
use cases that might emerge for hundreds of developers over
doesnt prevent the other.
Le 9 déc. 2015 23:12, "Marvin Toll" <marvint...@gtcgroup.com
<mailto:marvint...@gtcgroup.com> > a écrit :
Without having the benefit of "test driving" the change, it seems to make a lot
of sense to me. Any approach enabling direct acc
At Ford, we have continued to be impacted (as well) by "issues" with the DM.
In recent weeks, we came to the independent conclusion that the DM test suite
is probably inadequate.
We are also interested in performance --- not that we have any basis for a
concern. Rather, just wondering if the
It is not a huge deal... however, my personal preference is to have DEFAULT
JUnit test logging a bit quieter:
* jPED v7.0 Release Candidate 02;
unique to v. 1.5.1… and therefore do not see any reason to refrain from
releasing this version.
_Marvin
From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:44 AM
To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org; Marvin Toll <marvint...@gtcgroup.com>
Cc: Amita
Gerhard... at Ford we have only begun testing... we have our first test that
failed under previous releases and is working with DM 1.5.1.
We anticipate having our complete test suite working (or not) by the end of the
week.
[Our revised testing approach is to use the exact same test with
The Executor Service was added by Doug Lea in Java 5.
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ExecutorService.html
However, in Java 7 he put in the much improved Fork Join Pool... which extends
Agreed... mixing the JPA API (persist / merge) with an abstraction API
(save) is confusing.
Said another way... the goals of an abstraction to provide convenience and
reduce the learning curve is being thwarted by too many choices and an extended
learning curve.
-Original Message-
Good suggestion!
Trying to figure out what save does in all contexts has been a challenge...
and those that know native JPA are familiar with these seven often used methods:
clear()
contains()
detach()
flush()
merge()
persist()
remove()
for different outcomes.
Bottom line? I agree with John that this discussion needs attention.
More to come,
Marvin
-Original Message-
From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndam...@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:22 PM
To: dev@deltaspike.apache.org; Marvin Toll marvint...@gtcgroup.com
Subject
Now that IBM finally got an EE7 server certified
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/overview/compatibility-jsp-136984.html
)... does it make sense to add them to the suite (particularly if we are going
to add Wildfly 9)?
_Marvin
-Original Message-
From: John D. Ament
in on demand.
Hope that helps,
Thomas
[1] http://deltaspike.apache.org/documentation/data.html#QueryDelegates
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Marvin Toll marvint...@gtcgroup.com
wrote:
Am in strong agreement with Harald's statement:
I never really liked the fact that save() blurs
: Issues with EntityRepository.save()
Marvin,
What you are suggesting is not required imo. Some strategy configuration like
suggested from Thomas would give the same benefits.
On 14 August 2015 at 13:39, Marvin Toll marvint...@gtcgroup.com wrote:
Harald At the moment, I don't see a way to specify
Am in strong agreement with Harald's statement:
I never really liked the fact that save() blurs the distinction between
persist() and merge(), and by its very name it encourages users to always call
save() after changing an entity state which is usually unnecessary and
sometimes even wrong -
Gerhard,
Interesting suggestion... we will consider it.
_Marvin
-Original Message-
From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache DeltaSpike 1.5.0
hi marvin,
...
(since we release quite
An update from an unspecified Motor Company:
We made the decision to roll-back from 1.4.2 to 1.4.0 this morning... as we had
skipped 1.4.1.
I'd suggest that you pull 1.4.2... as it now appears this release broke about
50 of our Reference Application JUnit tests.
_Marvin
-Original
: Re: [DOCUMENTATION] Incorrect Link?
hi marvin,
thx! we saw that as well some time ago.
dan created the mirror back then.
- we still need someone else with a nabble-account who gets added as
co-owner.
(as you can see it's labeled as incubator - at that time there was no
dedicated users-list
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