Testing classifiers written in different languages

2015-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Considering the discussion on multiple classifier (*) implementations, I just wanted to point to [1] which (once suitably updated) might be useful for testing clients written in different languages to verify that they return the same results. The idea of that file was to define a

Draft of 2.0 pattern spec

2015-01-09 Thread Reza Naghibi
Here is a draft: http://wiki.apache.org/devicemap/Patterns2 So this is what I envision as the meat of 2.0. Think of it as high level ideas. Nothing written in stone, just brainstorming. Note how there is no mention of devices, browsers, or os. This is done on purpose. The classifiers simply

Re: How to get the DDRSimpleAPI source code? (was: Does the build work?)

2015-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote: ...The W3C may no longer maintain a code repo (if so it probably was CVS at the time, SVN at most;-) ... Ouch...what's an API spec worth without published source code? ...the original sources (not recompiled, JavaDoc

Re: How to get the DDRSimpleAPI source code? (was: Does the build work?)

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
AFAIK W3C has a standard license, a quote can be seen under e.g. Xerces https://xerces.apache.org/ http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/xerces/java/trunk/LICENSE.DOM-documentation.html?view=log and http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/xerces/java/trunk/LICENSE.DOM-software.html?view=markup As we use software,

Re: Language roll call

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
Good question, I guess the same still pending for Volkan. Should there be more than one PMC candidate even better;-) On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Reza Naghibi reza.nagh...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote: Nice. I will add you guys to the list. Have you guys signed a contributor agreement?

Re: Language roll call

2015-01-09 Thread Reza Naghibi
I'm pretty sure I saw Volkan's agreement filed last month. div Original message /divdivFrom: Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com /divdivDate:01/09/2015 9:08 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: dev@devicemap.apache.org /divdivCc: /divdivSubject: Re: Language roll call /divdiv /divGood

Re: Language roll call

2015-01-09 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
I am listed in the page of Persons with signed CLAs but who are not (yet) committers http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas. FYI. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Reza Naghibi reza.nagh...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote: I'm pretty sure I saw Volkan's agreement filed last month.

Re: How to get the DDRSimpleAPI source code? (was: Does the build work?)

2015-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote: ...Thus something like let's call it OpenDDR.next that does not fall under Apache requirements could use devicemap-data and w3c.jar together without problems?... Yes no problem, if you guys do this outside of

Re: Testing classifiers written in different languages

2015-01-09 Thread Reza Naghibi
I'm already thinking about tests [0]. All clients would share the same test suite. I'm working on the pattern spec now [1]. When that's ready, it should be clear how this will all come together. This spec is like 80% of 2.0. It's in a very rough and early stage right now, so it may be

Re: Language roll call

2015-01-09 Thread Reza Naghibi
Nice. I will add you guys to the list. Have you guys signed a contributor agreement? div Original message /divdivFrom: Craig Mason-Jones cr...@lateral.co.za /divdivDate:01/09/2015 2:17 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: dev@devicemap.apache.org /divdivCc: /divdivSubject: Re:

Re: How to get the DDRSimpleAPI source code? (was: Does the build work?)

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
I tried to have a word with OpenDDR contributors on their thoughts, but I guess after all of device-data was contributed using that from such a GitHub or similar module would be perfectly legitimate. Thus something like let's call it OpenDDR.next that does not fall under Apache requirements could

Re: How to get the DDRSimpleAPI source code? (was: Does the build work?)

2015-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Werner Keil werner.k...@gmail.com wrote: ...AFAIK W3C has a standard license, a quote can be seen under e.g. Xerces https://xerces.apache.org/ ... Xerces is a good example indeed, they have a core dependency on the Java W3C DOM API, for which source code is

Re: Testing classifiers written in different languages

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
Btw. regardless of whether this may now have to be outside Apache or not, there were extensive tests by W3C DDR for compatibility: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/DDWG/drafts/api/test-report.html Those who wish to work on a Perl implementation please have a look at the still working attachment on top

Re: Testing classifiers written in different languages

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
Bertrand/all, +1 I moved the test data to /contrib because there is no mandatory dependency, it simply gathers myriads of UA strings as it seems. A small subset comes with the classifier JUnit tests while the W3C DDR implementation contains a small test equivalent of devicemap-data for test

Re: Language roll call

2015-01-09 Thread Werner Keil
Thanks, is there some action item for the project/PMC now or other parties? On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Volkan Yazıcı volkan.yaz...@gmail.com wrote: I am listed in the page of Persons with signed CLAs but who are not (yet) committers