I can see that this project community has differences(architectural,
design, direction, methods, concepts, processes, interpretation of
regulations, platform's dev lifecycle).
Differences amongst humans have almost always resulted in a dialogue which
should now bridge them.
Awasum, thanks for
Hey,
Myrle thanks for sharing his profile and his work. I am not denying and
closing my eyes from your work and his work. The idea is pretty wild that
we are proposing, I think it needs a different setting and perhaps context.
I think, so tell me, If i have to contribute to the project in terms
Saransh,
Wikipedia would have helped you on this one. Greg Stein is one of the
earliest members of the Apache Software Foundation. He was a long time
board member, including a board chair for five years. He is currently
working as Infrastructure Administrator for The ASF where he has contact
I have already opened the thread. Please send your thoughts there .
I agree it’s getting convoluted.
On Sunday, September 26, 2021, Awasum Yannick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
> This thread is completely out of topic. Let's move on from this thread as
> it is not convenient for a lot of people.
>
>
Hi All,
This thread is completely out of topic. Let's move on from this thread as
it is not convenient for a lot of people.
ApacheCon 2021 just ended. If you have a new point of view on ApacheCon and
how you can help in planning ApacheCon 2022 Fineract/FinTech Track, then
work with Javier and
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 08:13:54PM +0530, Saransh Sharma wrote:
>...
> Greg, seems like your understanding is limited, community over code is the
> Apache way.
Hahahaaa This is one of the funniest things I've read all week.
Thank you for the laugh,
-g
Hi Saranch,
... I've been reading this email thread for a while and still can't figure
out what you want. And to be honest: I find it quite distracting. This
discussion started with you complaining about the process of ApacheCon
proposals, but you did this less than 2 days before ApacheCon while
My apologies is not such much Apache way this thread.
BR,
Giorgio.
As one of the two primary architects of Fineract CN:
It was not buzzword bingo, nor, as Saransh asserted in his ApacheCon 2020
talk, a "resume-driven" set of decisions. Those statements are insulting
and do not promote collaboration nor goodwill. I would encourage community
participants to
Hi all,
this is scary:
Documentation is scattered and use cases other than micro-finance need to
be highlighted. There is hardly a senior functional fintech influencer
connected to the project at Product engineering level.
The CN vs 1.x question would be much better if it had an open answering
Greg, look at below stats
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Survey+Results+-+2021+August
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 8:21 PM Saransh Sharma
wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 7:52 PM Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 02:00:52PM +0200, Muellners ApS wrote:
>> >
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 7:52 PM Greg Stein wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 02:00:52PM +0200, Muellners ApS wrote:
> > *"When late Stephen Hawkings wrote scientific papers, the papers would
> > get peer reviewed & then published. What incredible and amazing ideas,
> yet
> > peer reviewed. What a
Hey Greg thanks for such a beautiful mail, this is what I needed. So to
start , I don;t know how to code ! What can I do then in that case, maybe
write a document but i don't think that's equivalent to writing code. As I
have mentioned before, meritocracy is a fake dream that open source
projects
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 02:00:52PM +0200, Muellners ApS wrote:
> *"When late Stephen Hawkings wrote scientific papers, the papers would
> get peer reviewed & then published. What incredible and amazing ideas, yet
> peer reviewed. What a humble human being! I now wonder if he had started
> self
*"When late Stephen Hawkings wrote scientific papers, the papers would
get peer reviewed & then published. What incredible and amazing ideas, yet
peer reviewed. What a humble human being! I now wonder if he had started
self approving his own talks. How much humanity would then have discovered
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:03:09AM +0530, Saransh Sharma wrote:
>...
> Where can I suggest a new governance model,
Nowhere.
The model is defined by the Apache Software Foundation, and has been
in successful use for over two decades. It is designed with specific
intent, to assist communities in
Saransh, I agree with your submissions. We don't need to follow any person
, but the project itself. I also like your idea of rethinking the
architecture to take advantage of Web3. There has to be a willingness
from all of us to embrace change of course without jeopardizing the core
open source
Saransh,
The Apache Fineract PMC members are appointed by the Apache board. The
board almost always ratifies the suggestions of the Fineract PMC. Awasum
Yannick, the Vice President of Apache Fineract, has already shared with you
documentation on how the Fineract PMC comes to those suggestions.
Let me summarise my thoughts
Perceived value of merit can be different for every individual's , it's
like defining who is best and honestly this is going to full of bias
(Hoping apache is not using any kind of AI behind :)) Studies have shown
that organizational cultures that value meritocracy
Thanks KAG for clarifying but in my opinion the term self is not the
focus,let me state the context for you here, that this is regarding the
decision making or rather consensus from the community. But the term is
misleading and needs to be modified .
What if the community or the volunteers want
Saransh,
Allow me to introduce: Jim Jagielski was one of the Apache Fineract mentors
through incubation, and he is one of the longest serving members of the
board of The Apache Software Foundation. He's also served as the chair of
Apache OpenOffice and numerous other projects.
Kevin McGrail is
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 8:03 AM, Saransh Sharma wrote:
>
> Awasum for your reference
>
> Apache Projects are overseen by a self-selected team
Saransh for your reference.
Wrong.
On 9/21/2021 8:03 AM, Saransh Sharma wrote:
Awasum for your reference
Apache Projects are overseen by a self-selected team of active
volunteers who are contributing to their respective projects. Projects
are auto-governing with a heavy slant towards driving consensus to
maintain momentum and
I request all other members to chip in and please provide input .
Thanks
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, Saransh Sharma
wrote:
> Awasum for your reference
>
> Apache Projects are overseen by a self-selected team of active volunteers
> who are contributing to their respective projects. Projects
Awasum for your reference
Apache Projects are overseen by a self-selected team of active volunteers
who are contributing to their respective projects. Projects are
auto-governing with a heavy slant towards driving consensus to maintain
momentum and productivity. Whilst total consensus is not
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, Sander van der Heyden wrote:
> Hi Saranash,
>
> As a first and foremost acknowledgement: my reaction here is on a
> completely personal title and unrelated to my company,
>
What’s your company name ? Requesting you to share would you please ?
> this is a core
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, Awasum Yannick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> How to become a committer or PMC member for Apache Fineract is here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Becoming+a+Committer
>
Thanks Awasum you are quite good as always putting up right information.
>
> You
This is my vote +1
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 12:21 PM Myrle Krantz wrote:
> As a former PMC member I have exactly as much right to vote on this
> nomination as Sarensh has to make it (none ; o)
>
> Nonetheless here is my nonbinding vote:
> -1
>
> Best,
> Myrle
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:30 AM
As a former PMC member I have exactly as much right to vote on this
nomination as Sarensh has to make it (none ; o)
Nonetheless here is my nonbinding vote:
-1
Best,
Myrle
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:30 AM Saransh Sharma
wrote:
> I think the appointment of track chair was never done publicly or
Hi Saranash,
As a first and foremost acknowledgement: my reaction here is on a
completely personal title and unrelated to my company, this is a core
principle of participating in an Apache project. Therefore let me remind
you: I don't see anyone else constantly doing plain-out self promotion. I
Hi All,
How to become a committer or PMC member for Apache Fineract is here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Becoming+a+Committer
You have to be nominated by a current PMC member for Apache Fineract on the
private Fineract List. You gain committership or PMC membership
I think the appointment of track chair was never done publicly or asked for
from the community unless it was self appointed or appointed in shadows!
If I am not on the list and how can I vote the talks !
Silence is the consent but raising objection is needed if seen any time .
There is no limit
I think the appointment of track chair was never done publicly or asked for
from the community unless it was self appointed or appointed in shadows!
If I am not on the list and how can I vote the talks !
Silence is the consent but raising objection is needed if seen any time .
There is no limit
I think the appointment of track chair was never done publicly or asked for
from the community unless it was self appointed or appointed in shadows!
If I am not on the list and how can I vote the talks !
Silence is the consent but raising objection is needed if seen any time .
There is no limit
On 2021/09/19 07:35:33, Muellners ApS wrote:
> Community for some time, we have debated whether it is right for Track
> Chairs to self approve their own proposals in a public conf. - Apache Con,
> organised by charitable donations.
>
> For whatever reasons, a single self appointed track
I think Javier, by acting in such a way you are yourself putting out a
message that you are making it personal .I request that it's not about you.
This is quite outlandish to think that I am asking you to drop your talk !
This is about the current process that needs governance change!
I invite
Ankit, Saransh, and others
Enough of this little show you're putting together, where you make questions
and answer them yourself.
The time to ask questions about this edition of ApacheCon 2021 was during the
Call For Presentations, as well as in my multiple requests for volunteers.
Now is
I agree that if appointed chair track self approves their own proposals
then it’s dangerous for the community.
This leads to centralisation of the selection process , I wonder if this
kind of process has been laid out by Apache code of conduct .
I would propose that community by and large
Community for some time, we have debated whether it is right for Track
Chairs to self approve their own proposals in a public conf. - Apache Con,
organised by charitable donations.
For whatever reasons, a single self appointed track chair should not
approve his own proposals, as this sets up a
Hi Fineracters!
ApacheCon 2021 virtual edition is almost here, the event will start next
Tuesday 22nd, at 13:00 UTC.
Here the general schedule from the event:
https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/tracks/
Here the Fineract track: https://www.apachecon.com/acah2021/tracks/fineract.html
You can
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