Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/15/14 9:59 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, 1) Justin voted -1 and listed several issues. I'm still looking for enough information to try to reproduce Error: Inconsistant linkage in /Users/justinmclean/Documents/ApacheFlexDevelopGit/frameworks/libs/air/ai rg

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/15/14 11:05 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Yeah, I didn't see you add it, but by luck I just happened to notice there is at least one copy in there. That means work for the build script as it will have to download SWFObject and copy it into all of those places.

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/15/14 10:51 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, I think if they are still lurking you have already gotten their attention. If they are not listening at all, this won't help. I'm not clear a signature from the PMC will be a difference maker. I wasn't going to send the

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I see. Well, it sounds like a few PMC members are uncomfortable with it being signed by the PMC. One so far yes but that's the only objection so far. I'd put it to a vote with a veto before sending out but would like to see what other people think first. Thanks, Justin

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/15/14 11:22 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, I see. Well, it sounds like a few PMC members are uncomfortable with it being signed by the PMC. One so far yes but that's the only objection so far. I'd put it to a vote with a veto before sending out but would like to

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, IMO, swfobject must be removed from the repo. I don't think the folks who signed the SGA had the right to donate SWFObject. If the file contains the correct licence (ie MIT) is that still an issue? With MIT licences file you are allowed to redistribute the files as long as you leave the

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Mar 15, 2014 11:11 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 3/15/14 9:59 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, 1) Justin voted -1 and listed several issues. I'm still looking for enough information to try to reproduce Error: Inconsistant linkage in

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/15/14 11:45 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, IMO, swfobject must be removed from the repo. I don't think the folks who signed the SGA had the right to donate SWFObject. If the file contains the correct licence (ie MIT) is that still an issue? With MIT licences

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
I'm with Om. Call 3.0. Any issues (incorrectly) building from source will probably not happen that often in the wild, as this is realistically speaking a utility for which even devs will download the binaries. EdB On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:49 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
Let's not discuss this to death, please. I very much like Justin's proposal. I think that he can sign on behalf of the PMC, as it is one of the PMC's duties to try to get as much people to contribute to the project as possible. As a PMC member you can't be against an effort to get people to

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Any issues (incorrectly) building from source will probably not happen that often in the wild, as this is realistically speaking a utility for which even devs will download the binaries. Official Apache releases are source only, the binaries are just a connivence nothing more. Justin

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, We've been conservative and don't put things in our repo that haven't been donated regardless of license. OK so is the solution to delete those files from the repo? Currently they have no effect on the release packages. We went over these on September 13-15 in a thread called FlexUnit

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Do you have a reference for that number? I'm not in the US, and I didn't see the issue... 80+% of people who install the SDK are outside of the US and who may use an locale other than en_US. I guess some would use en_US but a lot wouldn't - either way that's a significant amount of users.

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Sorry if it's inconvenient but as per Apache guidelines votes are on source releases not binaries and as PMC members we need to abide by that. Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Is it a problem with the Installer or with SDK 4.12? This is really Alex's call at this point. He has the votes to make the release happen. Thanks, Om On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.comwrote: Hi, Do you have a reference for that number? I'm not in

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Is it a problem with the Installer or with SDK 4.12? It's a problem with the installer ant file in the 4.12 released SDK I believe. Lok like ALex may of just corrected the issue. This is really Alex's call at this point. Or people who voted +1 can look into the issue and decide to change

RE: Team page - move empty people down the bottom

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
I'm not sure what is not moral about it. I agree, it's not the right word (I am not native English speaker). Still think it's inaccurate and unfair, as all methods that claim to measure human performance/activity or whatever... Maybe that's in the French culture, and people in the US are used

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
Is it a problem with the Installer or with SDK 4.12? It's a problem with the installer ant file in the 4.12 released SDK I believe. Lok like ALex may of just corrected the issue. So, this issue can apparently be fixed by a new SDK release, not a new Installer RC. If I understand that

RE: AIR and Flex overlapping files

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Did you install the Flex-compatible AIR SDK? I installed it from this page: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/air-sdk-download.html (AIRSDK_Compiler.zip) So I will use the standalone one from: http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/win/download/4.0/AdobeAIRSDK.zip (url from installer config file).

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So, this issue can apparently be fixed by a new SDK release, not a new Installer RC. If I understand that correctly, there is no reason to veto the Installer release because of an SDK issue that happened to come to light when testing the Installer. IMO there is - the ant script is really

RE: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
IIUC, installer 3.0 is good enough, but the installer.xml file in the 4.12 release SDK is not good. So IMO, we shouldn't make a release now, because in this case, installer 3.0 will replace 2.7 as the default installer page (installer.html). So people who install Flex using the official

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/15/2014 9:13 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: What changes do you think are required for it to sent from the PMC? Thanks, Justin I do not think the PMC--as a group--should be sending out emails like the one you posted. -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Avi Kessner
As a lurker, I will just say that it's still rather scary to make an official JIRA, or patch, or whatever the process is. The bureaucracy itself is rather scary to be honest. brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47 On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Jeffry Houser

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/16/2014 3:37 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: it is one of the PMC's duties to try to get as much people to contribute to the project as possible. Are you sure? I do not see that listed anywhere in Apache's PMC Guidelines: https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html -- Jeffry Houser Technical

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
it is one of the PMC's duties to try to get as much people to contribute to the project as possible. Are you sure? I do not see that listed anywhere in Apache's PMC Guidelines: https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html You are kidding, right? If proper management and oversight doesn't at

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I do not think the PMC--as a group--should be sending out emails like the one you posted. Can expand on why? Email private@ or me off list if you feel for some reason it shouldn't be discussed on this list. Thanks, Justin

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/16/2014 9:41 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, I do not think the PMC--as a group--should be sending out emails like the one you posted. Can expand on why? Email private@ or me off list if you feel for some reason it shouldn't be discussed on this list. I'm not sure what to expand upon

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 12:44 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, We've been conservative and don't put things in our repo that haven't been donated regardless of license. OK so is the solution to delete those files from the repo? Currently they have no effect on the release packages.

RE: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
I see your point. So maybe we should remove the first sentence we have noticed you have been doing nothing for a while And maybe simply describe the situation and ask if people are still interested in the project, and the areas where help is needed. Also, I think it's important, as Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 2:53 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: IIUC, installer 3.0 is good enough, but the installer.xml file in the 4.12 release SDK is not good. So IMO, we shouldn't make a release now, because in this case, installer 3.0 will replace 2.7 as the default installer

RE: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Please try it yourself. Ok, but I couldn't find in this thread a detaild description of the issue. Could you please point me to the exact mail, and if none, describe what needs to be tested. I have to defer to the non-en_US folks on these matters. One question: do all of your projects set

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/16/2014 10:23 AM, Maurice Amsellem wrote: I see your point. Thanks! Maybe we should send to ALL committers, so that no-one feels uncomfortable with that. I thought it was the original intent to send to all committers. WDYT? I don't understand why the email needs to be sent at

RE: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Mike, I'm pretty sure in past threads I've asked you to work with Infra directly by filing a JIRA. Can you do that? I think it would go more smoothly if you worked directly with them. Please feel free to send me that thread. I was fairly certain you were discussing this with infra. I know

RE: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Labriola or some other FlexUnit expert can tell us if they are for required features? I will do my best to monitor this thread. I think all relevant issues have been discussed in threads before but, if for any reason, you are waiting on a response here from me or need technical info and

Re: Team page - move empty people down the bottom

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Kessler
Just another note from the security side of this. Some people don't put their name / pictures on lists because sometimes they end up good methods to support stalkers or disgruntled people and yes I've seen it happen before. Luckily we do have a decentralized group of people without office

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Kessler
Everyone's workload ebbs and flows. Sending out nagging messages isn't going to help that. However a message that gets sent out with just positive updates / messages I'm fine. -Mark

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Sean Thayne
I personally know tons of old Flex developers that for all intensive purposes believe Flex is still Dead. When I inform them of all the great stuff you guys have been accomplishing, they always get excited. Everybody still loves Flex, it just hasn't been cool, hip, and trendy since HTML 5!!! came

RE: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
I thought it was the original intent to send to all committers. You are right, the initial mail says to send out to all committers, but then I got mistaken by the first sentence: We've noticed that you have not contributed to the project in a while. __ Excerpt from the initial

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Carlos Rovira
- Work have progressed on FlexJS to a point we are nearing creating a first release I think FlexJS is near first alpha release, maybe pointing to a first release would be misleading. I second this kind of email since it's a call to arms good for the project. Maybe in the end it could have no

git commit: Added AIR-SDK directories to .gitignore, so that flex-sdk can be used as SDK in IDE

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Hi, I have added a few entries in .gitignore to ignore AIR-SDK related files (see below) so that I can overlay AIR-SDK in flex-sdk/ working directory and thus use it as an IDE SDK. None of these entries are currently in the sdk source, so it should be harmless. Let me know if there is any

Re: Team page - move empty people down the bottom

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just another note from the security side of this. The photo is optional (or can be of anything but most people have used an actually photo of themselves) and the text doesn't need to contain any personal information. I see this as a minimal risk especially as committer can choose to

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, As a lurker, I will just say that it's still rather scary to make an official JIRA, or patch, or whatever the process is. What's scary about it you just need to attach a fix to a JIRA. Hopefully it will be reviewed and added to the SKD by a committer will and if all test pass it will show

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So maybe we should remove the first sentence we have noticed you have been doing nothing for a while And maybe simply describe the situation and ask if people are still interested in the project, and the areas where help is needed. Maybe we should send to ALL committers, so that

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Yes, please delete swfobject from the repo. Done. The practice in the other repos is to only run RAT on the source package, not the results after building Done. I think it in a state that usable to make a release candidate. Justin

RE: Building new skins for Android 4.x and iOS7

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Good news. I have just completed support for @media os-version for Android. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33949 Committed and pushed to develop. I also added support for 3 part version numbers (such as 4.1.2). The only constraint is that it needs to be quoted, or the mxmlc

[DISCUSS] Apache Flex FlexUnit RC1

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Please take a look RC1 of Apache Flex FlexUnit, try it out and provide some feedback. The source distributions for Windows and Mac are available here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/flexunit/4.2.0/rc1/ The binary distributions as a convenience are available here:

No reproduced issues

2014-03-16 Thread piotrz
Hi Team, I'm working on list of easyfix issues and try to reproduce some of them. For example today I've resolved this issue - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34057 because I couldn't reproduce it, but I'm not convinced that is fully alright. How should I proceed? Should I just

Re: No reproduced issues

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, For example today I've resolved this issue - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34057 because I couldn't reproduce it, but I'm not convinced that is fully alright. Did you try in the browser ie not AIR? At the very least I'd paste the code you used to test the issue before

RE: Building new skins for Android 4.x and iOS7

2014-03-16 Thread piotrz
Great job Maurice! :) I will check it tomorrow when nightly will be ready. Btw. Where can I found some status of whether nightly was built or not? Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context:

RE: Building new skins for Android 4.x and iOS7

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
https://builds.apache.org/job/flex-sdk/ = build https://builds.apache.org/job/flex-sdk_release/ = nightly Maurice -Message d'origine- De : piotrz [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] Envoyé : dimanche 16 mars 2014 23:43 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : RE: Building new skins for Android

RE: No reproduced issues

2014-03-16 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Actually, you assumed that since it couldn't be reproduced, then it was fixed in 4.12. To be sure, I think you should install 4.11, reproduce the error, then test again with 4.12, and check if it disappeared. What do you think? Maurice -Message d'origine- De : Justin Mclean

Re: New Flex MaskedTextInput Spark Component

2014-03-16 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Maxime, thanks for pointing to the new component. As you said MTI doesn't support LTR direction right now. At this point I think there's other features that will IMO more needed (i.e: Mobile support). As I have no experience with LTR text I don't know how needed is that feature, so at this

Re: Building new skins for Android 4.x and iOS7

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Click on on of the build number to see what was included in that build. For example https://builds.apache.org/job/flex-sdk_release/530/ Shows last changes were: 1. Script to copy RC into release area 2. don't touch locale in -config.xml and flex-description Justin

RE: No reproduced issues

2014-03-16 Thread piotrz
I will reopen it and do some additional test in this case. Thanks guys. now for me is much clear how to step with it. Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context:

Re: Building new skins for Android 4.x and iOS7

2014-03-16 Thread piotrz
Thank you. :) Piotr - Apache Flex Committer piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Building-new-skins-for-Android-4-x-and-iOS7-tp35848p35951.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Here's my second draft. It's now intended to be sent directly to all committers. --- start draft --- Hi Apache Flex Committer, A lot has been going on in Apache Flex in recent months and it’s been hard to keep up to date with all of the news. Here's a brief overview of the current state

RE: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Tom Brazil
flex.apage.org ? Typo... -Original Message- From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:28 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Draft email to committers Hi, Here's my second draft. It's now intended to be sent directly to all

Re: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 8:48 AM, Michael A. Labriola labri...@digitalprimates.net wrote: Mike, I'm pretty sure in past threads I've asked you to work with Infra directly by filing a JIRA. Can you do that? I think it would go more smoothly if you worked directly with them. Please feel free to send me that

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, flex.apage.org ? Yep :-) Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC7

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 7:56 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote: Please try it yourself. Ok, but I couldn't find in this thread a detaild description of the issue. Could you please point me to the exact mail, and if none, describe what needs to be tested. Use the RC7 to install 4.12.

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
Hmm. I still don't like the first line. The it's been hardŠ assumes that folks think it has been hard. Also, please propose a subject as well. Maybe Apache Flex Progress Report? How about for the first two lines: A lot has been going on in Apache Flex in recent months. In case you haven't

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Dave Fisher
I think the note should be a call to action without comments on people's time commitment or how hard it is to find time, etc. it is to be expected that Committers will fade away and new ones replace old. There is a reason that merit does not expire. We always welcome people back and gladly.

RE: Status of Flex Unit?

2014-03-16 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Open a JIRA ticket at https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa for the Infrastructure project. Tell them what you want to do and we'll see what happens. Thanks. I will give it a whirl, Mike

Re: Draft email to committers

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 9:22 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, I think the note should be a call to action without comments on people's time commitment or how hard it is to find time, The initial draft was more like that but there were objections - so not sure which is the best way

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex FlexUnit RC1

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
I tried adapting my ant script to run on FlexUnit. It found that RAT said there are 4 binaries in the source kit. Font.fla, font.swf, empty.swf and thumbs.db. I think there is an fla in the SDK, so font.fla could stay as an exception, but we should look inside to see what is in it. If it is

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex FlexUnit RC1

2014-03-16 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, It found that RAT said there are 4 binaries in the source kit. Thanks I'll look into those. It also found that the NOTICE file is missing. I'll add that. Should flexunit's package name be apache-flex-flexunit-? Sounds reasonable to me. I wonder what is in flexunit1lib.swc? I couldn't

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Flex FlexUnit RC1

2014-03-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/16/14 10:23 PM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: I wonder what is in flexunit1lib.swc? I couldn't find the source. Anybody know where it is? I's assume it Adobe's earlier version of FlexUnit? OK, found it here: http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexunit/wiki Sounds like FlexUnit