Re: Runtime and deployment time web services architecture -- please comment

2005-02-08 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 7, 2005, at 3:45 PM, David Blevins wrote: Logically, every Web Service Stack needs a Container, but not every EJBContainer needs a Web Service Stack. I should state more clearly what I mean by this. CMP/BMP EntityBeans or Stateful SessionBeans will not have a Web Service Stack, neither

Re: deployment (oh, how I hate to go here...)

2005-02-08 Thread sissonj
Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/02/2005 06:36:39 AM: On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: A DeploymentManager running disconnected from its J2EE product can only configure modules but not perform administrative operations. It might not have access to any product

Re: Runtime and deployment time web services architecture -- please comment

2005-02-08 Thread David Jencks
On Feb 7, 2005, at 3:45 PM, David Blevins wrote: Just to clue people in on what has been implemented thus far: We have an HTTP server that delegates to an listener that looks up a WSContainer using URL and sends that input/output streams for processing. The WSContainer (the web service stack),

Re: Runtime and deployment time web services architecture -- please comment

2005-02-08 Thread David Blevins
On Feb 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, David Jencks wrote: From another reply David wrote: I should state more clearly what I mean by this. CMP/BMP EntityBeans or Stateful SessionBeans will not have a Web Service Stack, neither will Stateless SessionBeans that only have Local or Remote interfaces. In

Message: INFO [Daemon] GBean ..., name=blah is not running in state starting

2005-02-08 Thread sissonj
Something very minor I noticed.. I'd like to change the format of the end of the following message, as it sounded a bit weird to me: 18:53:26,449 INFO [Daemon] GBean geronimo.server:J2EEApplication=null,J2EEModule=blah,J2EEServer=geronimo,j2eeType=GBean,name=blahblah is not running in

[Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread sissonj
For a while now I have been seeing these messages at startup: 18:53:26,433 INFO [Daemon] Alleged GBean JMImplementation:type=MBeanServerInterceptorConfigurator is not a GBean 18:53:26,433 INFO [Daemon] Alleged GBean JMImplementation:interceptor=contextclassloader is not a GBean 18:53:26,433

Re: Constructing reference patterns

2005-02-08 Thread David Jencks
I talked about this with Alan and Dain a bit and they have some additional points that I hopefully won't misrepresent too badly. First of all everyone likes the first choice better, indicate the stuff to leave out and use wildcards for. Dain suggested including the type in the reference

Re: [Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread David Jencks
These are mbeans from the internals of the mbean server that aren't exposed as gbeans. I put in the annoying message for Dain's benefit so he'd decide what to do about it. It doesn't signify a problem, but is annoying. thanks david jencks On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Message: INFO [Daemon] GBean ..., name=blah is not running in state starting

2005-02-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something very minor I noticed.. I'd like to change the format of the end of the following message, as it sounded a bit weird to me: 18:53:26,449 INFO [Daemon] GBean geronimo.server:

Re: Runtime and deployment time web services architecture -- please comment

2005-02-08 Thread Srinath Perera
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 16:25:33 -0800, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been talking with David Blevins a bit about web services runtime and deployment time architecture and am belatedly moving to the list. I'm mostly thinking about ejb ws right now. Goals: support both Jetty and

Re: Runtime and deployment time web services architecture -- please comment

2005-02-08 Thread Srinath Perera
My picture for the EJB Ws are that the WS stack do the XML-java conversion of the invocation and then hand java representatons over to the EJB Continaer to do the invocation and return the result to WS stack. [I know in thoery the Invocation object should be added to the intercepter stack]. Then

[jira] Updated: (GERONIMO-570) Improve format of Gbean is not running message, issued at startup

2005-02-08 Thread John Sisson (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-570?page=history ] John Sisson updated GERONIMO-570: - Attachment: patch.txt Patch attached for review for D:\Projects\J2EE\geronimo\modules\system\src\java\org\apache\geronimo\system\main\Daemon.java

[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-570) Improve format of Gbean is not running message, issued at startup

2005-02-08 Thread John Sisson (JIRA)
Improve format of Gbean is not running message, issued at startup - Key: GERONIMO-570 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-570 Project: Apache Geronimo Type: Improvement Reporter: John

Re: deployment (oh, how I hate to go here...)

2005-02-08 Thread Jeremy Boynes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, if partially starting the server means that a EAR/WAR/CAR can't be deployed remotely then I don't think that is practical as a user may want to build and deploy the CAR from a GUI PC/workstation (possibly using a GUI deployment tool) to a remote headless server.

[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-571) Provide ability to start all non-started GBeans and see error messages as to why they did not start

2005-02-08 Thread John Sisson (JIRA)
Provide ability to start all non-started GBeans and see error messages as to why they did not start --- Key: GERONIMO-571 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-571

Re: build failed Mon Feb 7 18:09:37 PST 2005

2005-02-08 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
ARGH! Can we not send such large attachments?? Sanjiva. - Original Message - From: i386-redhat-linux-gnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: build failed Mon Feb 7 18:09:37 PST 2005

Re: build failed Mon Feb 7 18:09:37 PST 2005

2005-02-08 Thread David Blevins
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 10:28:13AM +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: ARGH! Can we not send such large attachments?? Absolutely. You could patch the scripts to publish to our website or something and send a link instead. The key there would be another script that deleted old entries to keep

Re: [Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Unfortunately, the message doesn't bother me. If you want to not expose JMX objects via object name queries, I guess you'll have to move the non-jmx objectname query code to the jmx gbean repo and use that for all queries (David knows what I am talking about). As you can see, I'm not too

Re: [Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread sissonj
I understand that this may not be important now, but so that others new to the project (or the average Joe user) don't ask the same question, wouldn't it make sense to record this as a JIRA issue, so it is flagged as known and will be dealt with at a future date. Sound reasonable? Thanks,

Spring integration...

2005-02-08 Thread Jules Gosnell
So, Guys, I've given you a few days to look over the minimal kernel patch. As I understood it we left the thread with two real options : 1) extend the kernel to allow acceptance of an existing object for proxying via GBeanInstance, rather than always constructing such objects itself. 2) submit

we now have a dep on Apache Scout

2005-02-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Because of recent JAXR work, we now have a dependency on Apache Scout. It turns out that at the moment, scout is not publishing snapshots to apache repo (and hence not to ibiblio), but I've brought this up w/ the project, and they will. I assume this means that everyone needs to get scout and

Fwd: we now have a dep on Apache Scout

2005-02-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Mail client senior moment... Begin forwarded message: From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 8, 2005 7:14:16 AM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: we now have a dep on Apache Scout Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because of recent JAXR work, we now have a dependency on Apache Scout.

Re: [Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread anita kulshreshtha
I think it should be on wiki under the section Running. People should be warned about these messages and reassured that the server starts properly despite these messages. I get lot of these while running Tomcat. Regards Anita --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that this may not be

Re: we now have a dep on Apache Scout

2005-02-08 Thread Davanum Srinivas
http://cvs.apache.org/repository/scout/jars/ On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 07:14:16 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of recent JAXR work, we now have a dependency on Apache Scout. It turns out that at the moment, scout is not publishing snapshots to apache repo (and hence not

Re: [Daemon] Alleged GBean ... is not a GBean messages at startup

2005-02-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that this may not be important now, but so that others new to the project (or the average Joe user) don't ask the same question, wouldn't it make sense to record this as a JIRA issue, so it is flagged as known and will be dealt

[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-572) GBeanName instead of ObjectName

2005-02-08 Thread David Jencks (JIRA)
GBeanName instead of ObjectName --- Key: GERONIMO-572 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-572 Project: Apache Geronimo Type: New Feature Components: kernel Reporter: David Jencks We may want to completely avoid

Re: [jira] Created: (GERONIMO-572) GBeanName instead of ObjectName

2005-02-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Before you address these, you should take a look at gbeans. We automatically add 77 methods to all GBeans. I don't think we should be removing stuff just because it came from 77. Instead, I think we should determine if we want to do something more powerful or different, but always keeping

Re: Spring integration...

2005-02-08 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I am definitely against this change. A fundamental assumption of the current GBean code is it controls life-cycle, and I believe changing this would have a massive impact on the entire GBean architecture. I do believe that you could get it to work for your small use case, but I believe that

Re: Spring integration...

2005-02-08 Thread Jules Gosnell
Dain Sundstrom wrote: I am definitely against this change. A fundamental assumption of the current GBean code is it controls life-cycle, in GBeanInstance without my patch: the 'target' field is typed 'Object', not GBeanLifecycle. doStart() contains: if (target instanceof

Re: Spring integration...

2005-02-08 Thread Rob Harrop
I'm going to agree with Jules on this - adding another layer of proxies in here is not a particularly good idea nor is it something we know will even work. If Spring has already supplied a CGLIB proxy, then we cannot proxy it again directly. We will have to create a lot of workarounds for this

[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-573) Add optional maxTries and retryInterval attributes to deploy:waitForStarted maven plugin

2005-02-08 Thread John Sisson (JIRA)
Add optional maxTries and retryInterval attributes to deploy:waitForStarted maven plugin -- Key: GERONIMO-573 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-573 Project: Apache

Re: Spring integration...

2005-02-08 Thread Jeff Genender
I think Jules has a point on this. What about the use of other open source projects that manage thier own private mbean lifecycles, such as Tomcat? A significant portion of the Tomcat underbelly infrastructure is managed this way. In the debugconsole, I can see the Tomcat created mbean