1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
All, For those wondering where the Geronimo 1.1.1 release is at here is a quick summary and battle plan. John Sisson discovered that we have several DTD and XSDs included in our build that are copies of Sun's original material. The copyright in the material seems to indicate that we cannot

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: All, For those wondering where the Geronimo 1.1.1 release is at here is a quick summary and battle plan. John Sisson discovered that we have several DTD and XSDs included in our build that are copies of Sun's original material. The

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Aaron Mulder
Can't we just ship without those? We have pointers to them on our web site at http://geronimo.apache.org/schemas.html -- is there any additional reason we need them at runtime (e.g. does XMLBeans use the actual schema to validate at runtime)? Thanks, Aaron On 8/18/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Excellent...thanks David...good ideas as well about the links. David Jencks wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: All, For those wondering where the Geronimo 1.1.1 release is at here is a quick summary and battle plan. John Sisson discovered that we have several DTD

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
They are used by XMLBeans during the build process. I guess we could do a one-time generation of the XMLBeans classes but I'd be more comfortable with Jencks' input. If you don't have the schemas you'd have to have network connectivity to build I suspect. Aaron Mulder wrote: Can't we just

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
If they are only used during the build process, then don't re-distribute and therefore this issue then seems out of the critical path for 1.1.1 and can be solved for 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 gier Matt Hogstrom wrote: They are used by XMLBeans during the build process. I guess we could do a one-time

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Well, the problem is that we distribute the source code for Geronimo out of SVN and these would end up being included. I think that falls into the category of redistribution. Hopefully I'm wrong on that count :) The remaining question is what about the previous releases? I would expect

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: If they are only used during the build process, then don't re- distribute and therefore this issue then seems out of the critical path for 1.1.1 and can be solved for 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 They are not needed at runtime, but xmlbeans packs

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Heads up...we're using IRC for real-time collaboration on this and will post updates to the dev list. IRC is at irc.freenode.net channel #geronimo. Right now I'm removing ./modules/j2ee-schema/src/resources/* and building to see if these DTDs are required for building in some odd way. Don't

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Fair enough...I think we'll have a better idea in an hour or so. Hopefully we're eliminating these skeletons from appearing again ;) Aaron Mulder wrote: I'm not claiming we don't have a problem, I'm claiming that we can ship 1.1.1 anyway. We may have to manually delete some files from the

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Aaron Mulder
I'm not claiming we don't have a problem, I'm claiming that we can ship 1.1.1 anyway. We may have to manually delete some files from the source distribution, but it could be done in order to avoid holding 1.1.1 any longer. Thanks, Aaron On 8/18/06, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Matt Hogstrom wrote: Well, the problem is that we distribute the source code for Geronimo out of SVN and these would end up being included. I think that falls into the category of redistribution. Hopefully I'm wrong on that count :) Right, so why not just take them out of SVN? I guess it

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Matt Hogstrom wrote: Heads up...we're using IRC for real-time collaboration on this and will post updates to the dev list. IRC is at irc.freenode.net channel #geronimo. I won't be able to be there. geir Right now I'm removing ./modules/j2ee-schema/src/resources/* and building to see

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread David Blevins
I personally don't know why we bother to regenerate that tree on every build as those schemas are not going to change. Let's just build them once, publish the jars, delete the schemas and be done with it. -David On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, David Jencks wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:22

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Sachin Patel
+1On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:36 PM, David Blevins wrote:I personally don't know why we bother to regenerate that tree on every build as those schemas are not going to change.  Let's just build them once, publish the jars, delete the schemas and be done with it.-DavidOn Aug 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, David

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:36 AM, David Blevins wrote: I personally don't know why we bother to regenerate that tree on every build as those schemas are not going to change. Let's just build them once, publish the jars, delete the schemas and be done with it. I think this will minimize our

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
+1 Exactly. Maybe put a note somewhere saying what schemas were used and where a user can find them. geir David Blevins wrote: I personally don't know why we bother to regenerate that tree on every build as those schemas are not going to change. Let's just build them once, publish the

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: Well, the problem is that we distribute the source code for Geronimo out of SVN and these would end up being included. I think that falls into the category of redistribution. Hopefully I'm wrong on that count :)

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread David Jencks
I've uploaded a preliminary version of the proposed schema jar at people.apache.org/~djencks/geronimo-schema_1.4_spec-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar We should be able to remove all the schemas and xmlbeans stuff from j2ee-schema module and instead have a geronimo-dependency.xml element to pull in the

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: Well, the problem is that we distribute the source code for Geronimo out of SVN and these would end up being included. I think that falls into the category of redistribution. Hopefully I'm

Re: 1.1.1 Status - XSD and DTD issues

2006-08-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Might there be a tool that could take the schema jar and produce xsd's from it's contents? :D geir David Jencks wrote: I've uploaded a preliminary version of the proposed schema jar at people.apache.org/~djencks/geronimo-schema_1.4_spec-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar We should be able to remove all