Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-14 Thread John Sisson
I would prefer we have full control over the infrastructure relating to the hosting of ASF licensed plugins that are developed under ASF projects. The recent outages and changes at other hosting sites have only highlighted this need. It would also be preferable that ASF hosted plugins are

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-14 Thread Sachin Patel
On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:47 AM, John Sisson wrote: IMO, we should only host plugins that are ASF licensed and maintained as part of the Geronimo project. For other plugins we can provide links to other sites (with a disclaimer that we don't endorse them etc). +1 John Aaron Mulder

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-13 Thread John Sisson
IMO, we should only host plugins that are ASF licensed and maintained as part of the Geronimo project. For other plugins we can provide links to other sites (with a disclaimer that we don't endorse them etc). John Aaron Mulder wrote: I gather from what you're saying you don't think the

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Hernan Cunico
As far as I can see, plugins are part of Geronimo and they should be in the 1.1 documentation space. Currently there is just one top level entry in the 1.1 doc which is for the User's Guide, if you plan to contribute doc from a user perspective then it should definitively go into the User's

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron Mulder
On 6/12/06, Hernan Cunico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can see, plugins are part of Geronimo and they should be in the 1.1 documentation space. I diasgree. Plugins will be versioned separately from Geronimo, and will not all be developed by the Geronimo team. What will we do with

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Hernan Cunico
Aaron Mulder wrote: On 6/12/06, Hernan Cunico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can see, plugins are part of Geronimo and they should be in the 1.1 documentation space. I diasgree. Plugins will be versioned separately from Geronimo, and will not all be developed by the Geronimo team.

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
As you say since plugins are not owned by the Geronimo project (ASF), not released by the Geronimo project and are not under the oversight of the porject perhaps the best thing to do is to put in an HTML link pointing to www.GeronimoPlugins.com and that way that project can manage the releases,

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron Mulder
I gather from what you're saying you don't think the Geronimo project should host any plugins? How do others feel? Thanks, Aaron On 6/12/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you say since plugins are not owned by the Geronimo project (ASF), not released by the Geronimo project

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Jeff Genender
-1...there is a large spot here for plugins...especially ones under the ASF license. I am still against the geronimoplugins.com thing as it still needs addressing. I personally think we, as geronimo, should have a system that is very similar in nature to Eclipse plugins. I do not see why we

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Sorry, I hit send too quickly. What I was going to add was that I expect there will be a number of plugin providers for Geronimo. The idea is excellent and hats off to you for bringing it forward to Geronimo. Here is a partial list of possible providers. http://geronimo.apache.org/plugins

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread David Blevins
Or Maven for that matter. In fact, we chould just snarf their entire docco setup and use that as a starting point. -David On Jun 12, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Genender wrote: -1...there is a large spot here for plugins...especially ones under the ASF license. I am still against the

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
See my other post. I hit send too quickly. I DO think we should host plugins at the ASF. Aaron Mulder wrote: I gather from what you're saying you don't think the Geronimo project should host any plugins? How do others feel? Thanks, Aaron On 6/12/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron Mulder
Please distinguish between plugin source code, plugin binaries, and plugin documentation. Which of these do you think should be hosted at Apache, not hosted at Apache, or split across providers? Thanks, Aaron On 6/12/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See my other post. I hit send

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Why not having something like the maven guys did for m2 plugins at mojo.codehaus.org ? I tend to prefer a single location for all plugins rather than having one two repos, one at Apache for ASL plugins, and another one.We could then just redirect the geronimoplugins.org to the site at

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Donald Woods
Agree, but we really have two sets of plugins to host - 1) server CARs that we want to provide as plugins 2) samples and other ASF apps (like Jetspeed2) that should be delivered separately from the server releases -Donald Matt Hogstrom wrote: See my other post. I hit send too quickly. I

Re: What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I'm superimposing my thinking about plugins here so please course correct me if I'm heading into a ditch. Plugins are effectively a way to package a server configuration so it can be conveniently shared across multiple server instances. The easiest way to build one is to deploy an application

What's the Wiki story?

2006-06-11 Thread Aaron Mulder
I'd like to add some documentation for specific plugins to a Wiki. I don't know if the plan is to migrate pretty much everything to Confluence or only keep our main documentation there and use MoinMoin for the rest or what. Still, if we're documenting available plugins, that's probably more or