Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-24 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+0 #2 Matt Hogstrom wrote: +1 #2 Dain Sundstrom wrote: So what alan is point out is I just suggested we add one more feature. I agree that this is another feature, so what do we want to do? I think we have three choices: 1) My idea below, isolate the broken porlets to an experimental

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Jagielski
Not a vote in any way, but experience has shown (in various other projects) that those last minute additions almost invariably cause problems :) On May 23, 2006, at 1:43 AM, Aaron Mulder wrote: I don't agree. 1.1 is not yet out the door, and if anything, it looks like 1.2 will take longer

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-24 Thread Aaron Mulder
Yeah, all right, but what's the difference between a late-breaking fix and a late-breaking feature of comparable size? Anything late-breaking is risky, but we now have the policy that 4 people will review it, plus we have a week to review the build before it becomes final, so what's the big

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-24 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I think we should stay focused on the blocker JIRAs for now as our whittle point as discussed earlier in this thread. Other fixes that address functional issues are fine as well. Once those are complete other things could be considered. Right now the significant blocking factor is Codehaus

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Gianny Damour
Matt Hogstrom wrote: Based on the list below I think 1,2 and 3 are new function and 4 is a bug fix. Aaron Mulder wrote: Here are the things that I still want to squeeze into 1.1: - fix console JMS to accept new providers at runtime - fix console security realms to accept new providers at

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I appreciate your concerns but as you noted there are a number of other bug fixes and blockers that *you* moved into the 1.1 stream that need to be addressed. Null pointer exceptions, etc. If we were in better shape on the usability front I would agree with you. There are so many of those I

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Aaron Mulder
OK. I'm well aware that I've assigned a large number of 1.1 issues to myself. Is there someone else I should assign them to? And do you have a list of the other issues that you feel need to be addressed for the 1.1 release? Thanks, Aaron On 5/23/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
All, Here is what I would like to define as our closing set for 1.1 * Restoration of Codehaus repos to get OEJB and TranQL up and running. * Complete testing of current performance fixes and commit them. * Close out SNAPSHOTs to final releases (depends partially on the above) * Complete the

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Dain Sundstrom
How about we create an experimental section of the console menu, that only displays if you click the show experimental link (I'd guess it can all be done with java script on the browser side). I remember for 1.0 we removed a lot of portlets, but I think it would be ok to include most of

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
/me mumbles something about roses... Regards, Alan Dain Sundstrom wrote: How about we create an experimental section of the console menu, that only displays if you click the show experimental link (I'd guess it can all be done with java script on the browser side). I remember for 1.0 we

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-23 Thread Dain Sundstrom
So what alan is point out is I just suggested we add one more feature. I agree that this is another feature, so what do we want to do? I think we have three choices: 1) My idea below, isolate the broken porlets to an experimental section 2) Just remove the broken portlets 3) Fix the

Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Aaron Mulder
Here are the things that I still want to squeeze into 1.1: - fix console JMS to accept new providers at runtime - fix console security realms to accept new providers at runtime - add a missing Geronimo security provider to console security realms - fix hot deploy dir so it notices files updated

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Aaron Mulder wrote: Here are the things that I still want to squeeze into 1.1: - fix console JMS to accept new providers at runtime - fix console security realms to accept new providers at runtime - add a missing Geronimo security provider to console security realms - fix hot deploy dir so it

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Based on the list below I think 1,2 and 3 are new function and 4 is a bug fix. Aaron Mulder wrote: Here are the things that I still want to squeeze into 1.1: - fix console JMS to accept new providers at runtime - fix console security realms to accept new providers at runtime - add a missing

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Aaron Mulder
We can call them what we want, but I think all the features are necessary, in particular in order to support plugins. The advantage of adding the first two features is that they let us take a lot of other features *out* of the critical path, and release them as plugins (also letting us support

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I agree that they are necessary. Let's put them in 1.2. 1.1 is almost out the door and adding new features at this point is very late in the game. We're currently 30 days past our original date and almost 5 months past the 1.0 release. Please defer these till 1.2. Matt Aaron Mulder wrote:

Re: Remaining 1.1 Issues

2006-05-22 Thread Aaron Mulder
I don't agree. 1.1 is not yet out the door, and if anything, it looks like 1.2 will take longer than anticipated. Minor changes, necessary, I vote 1.1. Remember, this change takes pressure off since we'll be able to release more features as plugins. I'm strongly in favor of taking things out