Re: code of conduct

2020-11-21 Thread MG
I have been thinking about this, and I think I might need to go back on my comment on "Code of Conduct" as a name - maybe Groovy needs something, that better expresses how non-toxic and constructive the environment here is, especially when compared to some of the worse examples out there, so I

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-20 Thread OCsite
+1 to what Konstantin wrote, and also my two Zimbabwe cents' worth: myself, I actually think it's harmful — albeit very slightly —, for things like this actually teach people not to behave unless they are explicitly told to. Of course, this is an infinitesimally small incentive not to “behave r

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-19 Thread Søren Berg Glasius
I agree with Paul, There is no harm in having a CoC and to follow the general ASF one. I run GR8Conf, and we added a CoC for the conference, even without ever having to use it, but it's nice to have, in case someone does misbehave. It gives the organizers a tool to ask people to leave, if stepping

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-19 Thread Paul King
I don't think anyone is suggesting we need a separate CoC. We just now have a short para which shows the link to the ASF one: https://github.com/apache/groovy/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md Groovy has been very lucky to have on the whole a very friendly community. I guess in any community you can

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-19 Thread Remko Popma
+1 for having a COC > On Nov 18, 2020, at 8:48, Paul King wrote: > >  > > Hi everyone, > > We have been fortunate that most of the time, the discussions within our > community are very respectful, so I don't think we need to have an elaborate > discussion about a project-specific code of

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-19 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Ever since Linux Foundation started pushing the COC gags into ASF projects I kept wondering if people won't behave in civil manner - just like Paul has alluded to - unless they are explicitly told how to be good boys and girls? Let me ask a perhaps naive but a very honest question: why do we r

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-19 Thread MG
Hi Paul, no actual objections to the name - just a joke about the use of offensive language, to lighten the mood on a heavy subject. With honestly no intention to COCblock anyone ;-) On 19/11/2020 03:57, Paul King wrote: mg, what other suggestions do you have? Would you prefer "Community con

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-18 Thread Paul King
mg, what other suggestions do you have? Would you prefer "Community conduct"? The filename isn't easily changed if we want it to be recognised by github: https://github.com/apache/groovy/community but the heading inside I believe we can choose. Cheers, Paul. On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:06 AM MG w

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-18 Thread MG
+1 for having one, -1 for calling it that On 18/11/2020 08:52, Søren Berg Glasius wrote: +1 for having a COC Best regards / Med venlig hilsen, Søren Berg Glasius Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the change

Re: code of conduct

2020-11-17 Thread Søren Berg Glasius
+1 for having a COC Best regards / Med venlig hilsen, Søren Berg Glasius Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes. Den ons. 18. nov. 2020 kl. 00.48 skrev Paul King : > > Hi everyone, > > We have been f