Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-17 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
t, I > > > > > think I > > > > > > >>>>> need > > > > > > >>>>> an answer about how the feature handles our common dist-sys > > > > > category > > > > > > of

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-16 Thread Stack
> > > > > >>>>> problem as an (ignorant) user ;) > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Andrew Purtell wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-16 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
ot; but now > > > there > > > > is > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> an > > > > >>>>>> attempt to walk that back. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I don't like that development of thi

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-16 Thread Stack
ow > > > >>>>>> that we are trying to get a 2.0 out the door. Because this is a > > > >>>>>> volunteer > > > >>>>>> project I cannot make any demand that it should be done, but I > can > > > >>>>>> certainly look at

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-16 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
>>>>>> currency. > > >>>>>> I hope at least the fault tolerance changes can be completed and > > >>>>>> committed > > >>>>>> before we spin a 2.0 RC, and without causing a 2.0 release t

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-15 Thread Stack
fy dropping unfinished work into a > >>>>>> release > >>>>>> branch. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I will change my vote to -0. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-15 Thread Ted Yu
its of >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> evaluation, not simply to justify dropping unfinished work into a >>>>>>> release >>>>>>> branch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will change my vote to -0. &

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-15 Thread Ted Yu
there is some misconception of using the term "blockers" for >>>>>> >>>>>> referring to those jiras. My understanding is that those three jiras >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> blockers for the backup functionality to be mor

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-15 Thread Josh Elser
hink Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by citing that as pending work. From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM To: dev@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vot

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
lockers. >>>>> >>>>> We are proposing the merge at this time because of the above that >>>>> maintaining this in a branch is becoming extremely costly and not >>>>> productive for the HBase community. Realistically, we cannot have the >&g

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Josh Elser
rk more complete by citing that as pending work. From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM To: dev@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
ple of months and doing yet another > >>> giant round of reviews because the code base is a moving target. > >>> > >>> Enis > >>> > >>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Devaraj Das<d...@hortonworks.com> > >>> wrote: > >

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
he feedback incorporated thus far >>>> in >>>> the iterations of the mega-patch. That's a wrong way to go. >>>> On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to ease >>>> reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be d

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
release blockers. >>>>> >>>>> We are proposing the merge at this time because of the above that >>>>> maintaining this in a branch is becoming extremely costly and not >>>>> productive for the HBase community. Realistically, we cannot have the &g

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Josh Elser
_ From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM To: dev@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017 It ignores the feedback If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
> the iterations of the mega-patch. That's a wrong way to go. >>>> On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to ease >>>> reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be done later. I >>>> >>> thin

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-14 Thread Josh Elser
From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM To: dev@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017 It ignores the feedback If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am a

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Ted Yu
t; > > On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to > > ease > > > > reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be done later. I > > > think > > > > Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by > &g

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
t; Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by > > citing > > > that as pending work. > > > > > > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Andrew Purtell
______ > > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM > > To: dev@hbase.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing > > 3/11/2017 &

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Ted Yu
gt; > that as pending work. > > ____ > > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM > > To: dev@hbase.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Enis Söztutar
re complete by citing > that as pending work. > > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM > To: dev@hbase.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing > 3/11/2017 > > >> It i

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Devaraj Das
o: dev@hbase.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017 >> It ignores the feedback If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am always open for further discussions. If reviewer does not insist on a particular request - it wi

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
>> It ignores the feedback If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am always open for further discussions. If reviewer does not insist on a particular request - it will be dropped. I think it is fair. >> he list is incomplete because a bunch of >> follow-ons came of the review cycle

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-13 Thread Stack
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Stack wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted Yu wrote: > >> HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61. >> > > The patch put up for VOTE here was done on a branch. The call to merge > seems to

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Stack
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted Yu wrote: > HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61. > The patch put up for VOTE here was done on a branch. The call to merge seems to have been premature given the many cycles of review and test that happened

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Ted Yu
HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61. FYI On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Ted Yu wrote: > Thanks for the feedback, Andrew. > > How about the following plan: > > create branch HBASE-14123 off of master with mega patch v61 as the first > commit

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Ted Yu
Thanks for the feedback, Andrew. How about the following plan: create branch HBASE-14123 off of master with mega patch v61 as the first commit (reviewed by Stack and Enis) Vlad and I continue development (the 3 blockers) based on HBASE-14123 branch when all of the blockers get +1 and merged into

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Geoffrey Jacoby
I have no vote here, but I'd argue that HBASE-14417 and HBASE-14141 shouldn't be blockers. I agree that HBASE-15227 to add fault tolerance is a blocker. HBASE-14417 is support for incrementally backing up bulk loaded rows. That's an important feature, but if you don't use bulk loads, or don't

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
Thanks for the offer but I like that you were honest about compiling a list of issues that you thought were blockers for release. Since this proposal is a merge into 2.0, and we are trying to release 2.0, I am -1 on this merge until those blockers are addressed. I had a look at the list. I think

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
No problem I will downgrade Blockers to Majors if it scares you, Andrew  Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote: > > ​I know the merge of this feature has lagged substantially. I think that is > regrettable but on another thread we are

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
​I know the merge of this feature has lagged substantially. I think that is regrettable but on another thread we are lamenting that 2.0 is already late. Unless I misunderstand, this is a proposal to merge something with known blockers into trunk before we branch it for 2.0 which will effectively

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
They are not blockers for merge - only for 2.0. GA As I said already the feature is usable right now We would like to continue working on master and we would like to see a commitment from community Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Andrew Purtell
> Only BLOCKERs and CRITICALs are guaranteed for HBase 2.0 release. If we have identified blockers, why merge this before they are in? Otherwise we can't release 2.0, and it is overdue. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov wrote: > Hello, HBase folks > >

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-10 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
Still need one more +1 On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Vladimir Rodionov wrote: > bump > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Ted Yu wrote: > >> +1 from me as well. >> >> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: >> >> >

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-09 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
bump On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Ted Yu wrote: > +1 from me as well. > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: > > > Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress. > > > > Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-09 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
bump On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Vladimir Rodionov wrote: > No problem, we can extend deadline. > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ted Yu wrote: > >> March 11th is on weekend. >> >> Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-09 Thread Ted Yu
+1 from me as well. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: > Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress. > > Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get the blockers in before the 2.0 > timeframe with the momentum, so it is a good idea to

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-08 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
No problem, we can extend deadline. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ted Yu wrote: > March 11th is on weekend. > > Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega patch in depth > some more time ? > > Cheers > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-08 Thread Enis Söztutar
Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress. Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get the blockers in before the 2.0 timeframe with the momentum, so it is a good idea to merge now so that development can continue in master, and there is more exposure for testing, etc.

Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-08 Thread Ted Yu
March 11th is on weekend. Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega patch in depth some more time ? Cheers On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov wrote: > Hello, HBase folks > > For your consideration today is Backup/Restore feature for

[VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017

2017-03-08 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
Hello, HBase folks For your consideration today is Backup/Restore feature for Apache HBAse 2.0. Backup code is available as a mega patch in HBASE-14123 (v61), applies cleanly to the current master, all test PASS, patch has no other issues. The patch has gone through numerous rounds of code