t, I
> > > > > think I
> > > > > > >>>>> need
> > > > > > >>>>> an answer about how the feature handles our common dist-sys
> > > > > category
> > > > > > of
> > > > > >>>>> problem as an (ignorant) user ;)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Andrew Purtell wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > >
ot; but now
> > > there
> > > > is
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> an
> > > > >>>>>> attempt to walk that back.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I don't like that development of thi
ow
> > > >>>>>> that we are trying to get a 2.0 out the door. Because this is a
> > > >>>>>> volunteer
> > > >>>>>> project I cannot make any demand that it should be done, but I
> can
> > > >>>>>> certainly look at
>>>>>> currency.
> > >>>>>> I hope at least the fault tolerance changes can be completed and
> > >>>>>> committed
> > >>>>>> before we spin a 2.0 RC, and without causing a 2.0 release t
fy dropping unfinished work into a
> >>>>>> release
> >>>>>> branch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will change my vote to -0.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13
its of
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> evaluation, not simply to justify dropping unfinished work into a
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> branch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will change my vote to -0.
&
there is some misconception of using the term "blockers" for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> referring to those jiras. My understanding is that those three jiras
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> blockers for the backup functionality to be mor
hink
Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by
citing
that as pending work.
From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
To: dev@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vot
lockers.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are proposing the merge at this time because of the above that
>>>>> maintaining this in a branch is becoming extremely costly and not
>>>>> productive for the HBase community. Realistically, we cannot have the
>&g
rk more complete by
citing
that as pending work.
From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
To: dev@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing
3/11/2017
ple of months and doing yet another
> >>> giant round of reviews because the code base is a moving target.
> >>>
> >>> Enis
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Devaraj Das<d...@hortonworks.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >
he feedback incorporated thus far
>>>> in
>>>> the iterations of the mega-patch. That's a wrong way to go.
>>>> On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to ease
>>>> reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be d
release blockers.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are proposing the merge at this time because of the above that
>>>>> maintaining this in a branch is becoming extremely costly and not
>>>>> productive for the HBase community. Realistically, we cannot have the
&g
_
From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
To: dev@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing
3/11/2017
It ignores the feedback
If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment
> the iterations of the mega-patch. That's a wrong way to go.
>>>> On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to ease
>>>> reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be done later. I
>>>>
>>> thin
From: Vladimir Rodionov<vladrodio...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
To: dev@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing
3/11/2017
It ignores the feedback
If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am a
t; > > On the separation into a backup module, again, that was reverted to
> > ease
> > > > reviews of the mega-patch, and was noted as work to be done later. I
> > > think
> > > > Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by
> &g
t; Stack just wants to make the list of remaining work more complete by
> > citing
> > > that as pending work.
> > >
> > > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, March
______
> > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
> > To: dev@hbase.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing
> > 3/11/2017
&
gt; > that as pending work.
> > ____
> > From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
> > To: dev@hbase.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote
re complete by citing
> that as pending work.
>
> From: Vladimir Rodionov <vladrodio...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 3:09 PM
> To: dev@hbase.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing
> 3/11/2017
>
> >> It i
o: dev@hbase.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Backup/Restore feature for HBase 2.0, vote closing 3/11/2017
>> It ignores the feedback
If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am always open for
further discussions. If reviewer does not insist on a particular request -
it wi
>> It ignores the feedback
If I "ignore" feedback, I put my comment - why? I am always open for
further discussions. If reviewer does not insist on a particular request -
it will be dropped. I think it is fair.
>> he list is incomplete because a bunch of
>> follow-ons came of the review cycle
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Stack wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
>
>> HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61.
>>
>
> The patch put up for VOTE here was done on a branch. The call to merge
> seems to
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
> HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61.
>
The patch put up for VOTE here was done on a branch. The call to merge
seems to have been premature given the many cycles of review and test that
happened
HBASE-14123 branch has been created, with Vlad's mega patch v61.
FYI
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, Andrew.
>
> How about the following plan:
>
> create branch HBASE-14123 off of master with mega patch v61 as the first
> commit
Thanks for the feedback, Andrew.
How about the following plan:
create branch HBASE-14123 off of master with mega patch v61 as the first
commit (reviewed by Stack and Enis)
Vlad and I continue development (the 3 blockers) based on HBASE-14123 branch
when all of the blockers get +1 and merged into
I have no vote here, but I'd argue that HBASE-14417 and HBASE-14141
shouldn't be blockers. I agree that HBASE-15227 to add fault tolerance is a
blocker.
HBASE-14417 is support for incrementally backing up bulk loaded rows.
That's an important feature, but if you don't use bulk loads, or don't
Thanks for the offer but I like that you were honest about compiling a list
of issues that you thought were blockers for release. Since this proposal
is a merge into 2.0, and we are trying to release 2.0, I am -1 on this
merge until those blockers are addressed.
I had a look at the list.
I think
No problem I will downgrade Blockers to Majors if it scares you, Andrew
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
>
> I know the merge of this feature has lagged substantially. I think that is
> regrettable but on another thread we are
I know the merge of this feature has lagged substantially. I think that is
regrettable but on another thread we are lamenting that 2.0 is already
late. Unless I misunderstand, this is a proposal to merge something with
known blockers into trunk before we branch it for 2.0 which will
effectively
They are not blockers for merge - only for 2.0. GA
As I said already the feature is usable right now
We would like to continue working on master and we would like to see a
commitment from community
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 10, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> Only BLOCKERs and CRITICALs are guaranteed for HBase 2.0 release.
If we have identified blockers, why merge this before they are in?
Otherwise we can't release 2.0, and it is overdue.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov
wrote:
> Hello, HBase folks
>
>
Still need one more +1
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Vladimir Rodionov
wrote:
> bump
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Ted Yu wrote:
>
>> +1 from me as well.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote:
>>
>> >
bump
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Ted Yu wrote:
> +1 from me as well.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote:
>
> > Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress.
> >
> > Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get
bump
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Vladimir Rodionov
wrote:
> No problem, we can extend deadline.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
>
>> March 11th is on weekend.
>>
>> Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega
+1 from me as well.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote:
> Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress.
>
> Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get the blockers in before the 2.0
> timeframe with the momentum, so it is a good idea to
No problem, we can extend deadline.
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Ted Yu wrote:
> March 11th is on weekend.
>
> Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega patch in depth
> some more time ?
>
> Cheers
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov
Thanks Vladimir for the write up and the work. Glad to see progress.
Here is my +1. I'm pretty sure we can get the blockers in before the 2.0
timeframe with the momentum, so it is a good idea to merge now so that
development can continue in master, and there is more exposure for testing,
etc.
March 11th is on weekend.
Do you want to give people who haven't looked at the mega patch in depth
some more time ?
Cheers
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Vladimir Rodionov
wrote:
> Hello, HBase folks
>
> For your consideration today is Backup/Restore feature for
Hello, HBase folks
For your consideration today is Backup/Restore feature for Apache HBAse 2.0.
Backup code is available as a mega patch in HBASE-14123 (v61), applies
cleanly to the current master, all test PASS, patch has no other issues.
The patch has gone through numerous rounds of code
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