Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Rob Lemaster
I would like to propose an enhancement to the Apache web server for secure authentication. If this is the wrong list, pls. reply with the correct list and I will post it there. SSH allows a user to create a public/private key pair and use that for authentication. This is much more secure than

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
Been there, done that: http://wiki.buanzo.org (enigform and mod_openpgp) Not x509, though. On 11/20/10, Rob Lemaster rklemas...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to propose an enhancement to the Apache web server for secure authentication. If this is the wrong list, pls. reply with the

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Graham Leggett
On 20 Nov 2010, at 10:27 AM, Rob Lemaster wrote: SSH allows a user to create a public/private key pair and use that for authentication. This is much more secure than simply using passwords and adds the ability to add 'something you have' for multi-factor authentication. I propose that the same

Re: mod_disk_cache - mod_cache_disk

2010-11-20 Thread Graham Leggett
On 14 Oct 2010, at 8:50 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: The naming of mod_disk_cache currently goes against the naming convention of other grouped modules in the server, such as mod_proxy_*, and mod_socache_*. Are there any objections to me renaming mod_disk_cache to mod_cache_disk for httpd

Re: mod_ssl's proxy support: make it per directory

2010-11-20 Thread Daniel Ruggeri
On 11/19/2010 9:13 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: On 19 Nov 2010, at 3:15 PM, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group wrote: For a while, mod_ssl has been able to secure connections from mod_proxy, backwards towards some backend server. For some reason however, the directives that control this behavior SSLProxy*

Re: mod_include: include virtual and error handling

2010-11-20 Thread Graham Leggett
On 02 Nov 2010, at 10:34 PM, Nick Kew wrote: The lack of this one feature is the most cited reason I've been given for why people have moved away from mod_include as a template processor to other template processors within other servers. Rather than moving to an entirely new type of server, I'd

Re: Fwd: [us...@httpd] SSLRequire UTF-8 characters

2010-11-20 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Joe Orton wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 07:13:01AM +0100, Kaspar Brand wrote: On 17.11.2010 15:53, Igor Galić wrote: it might be appropriate to ping dev@ with this problem I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature. I'd call it a missing feature... the problem is that

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Rob Lemaster
Isn't mod_ssl used solely for HTTPS (browser-server encryption)? I would like to use PKI for user authentication like you can in SSH on top of the encryption provided by HTTPS. The most secure option I see available for web authentication currently is OTP tokens (RSA,etc) that only work on one web

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 20/11/2010 22:19, Rob Lemaster wrote: Isn't mod_ssl used solely for HTTPS (browser-server encryption)? I would like to use PKI for user authentication like you can in SSH on top of the encryption provided by HTTPS. The most secure option I see available for web authentication currently is

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Rob Lemaster
Thanks for the link Issac. If this is already in Apache, why isn't everyone using it? On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Issac Goldstand mar...@beamartyr.net wrote: Nope, you have full x509 based authentication out-of-the-box.  See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ssl/ssl_howto.html#allclients

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Graham Leggett
On 20 Nov 2010, at 10:19 PM, Rob Lemaster wrote: Isn't mod_ssl used solely for HTTPS (browser-server encryption)? I would like to use PKI for user authentication like you can in SSH on top of the encryption provided by HTTPS. The most secure option I see available for web authentication

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Rob Lemaster
Thanks for that explanation Graham! I wasn't thinking in terms of CA-signed certificates like you and Issac pointed out, but more of a PGP-type model, where I could use my own self-signed public/private key pair created in Firefox to authenticate to many web sites. I realize that self-signed

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Daniel Ruggeri
On 11/20/2010 2:39 PM, Rob Lemaster wrote: Thanks for the link Issac. If this is already in Apache, why isn't everyone using it? On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Issac Goldstandmar...@beamartyr.net wrote: Nope, you have full x509 based authentication out-of-the-box. See

Removing passwords from the conf file

2010-11-20 Thread Daniel Ruggeri
In mod_ssl there is a very handy option of making an exec callout for SSLPassPhraseDialog rather than to put a password for your private key in the conf file. The obvious benefit here is that one can then design a solution to meet any arbitrary number of security challenges before allowing

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Rob Lemaster
I understand your skepticism, but I am not advocating a complex CA infrastructure and I have more faith in end users (possibly misplaced). IMHO, it is reasonable for users to take that extra step for their banking site or SSL-VPN. It's really not that big a deal to generate a key pair in PuTTY, I

Re: Proposed: PKI Authentication for secure web access

2010-11-20 Thread Sander Temme
On Nov 20, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Rob Lemaster wrote: Thanks for the link Issac. If this is already in Apache, why isn't everyone using it? Because key management is just too freaking hard, and too much of a management and support burden. For God's sake, if we can't even get the Apache