Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:11:58 +0200 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 10 Jul 2013, at 8:41 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: While we all get busy, and derailed by nice-to-have additions, the activity 10:59 and 11:01 EDT Tuesday is a prime example of where the

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 03:24 -0500, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Because the project is incapable of releasing more than two minor subversions, per year, at present. on holiday with a dog slow 3G vpn tonight, so I'll be brief (and wont see any replies until I return on Sunday...) I have never

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:18:06 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: on holiday with a dog slow 3G vpn tonight, so I'll be brief (and wont see any replies until I return on Sunday...) I have never agreed with any release often principle, a project that releases often (more than a

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 09:22:06 -0400 Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Considering that I've been the only RM for 2.4.x, I can't help but assume that Bill is referring to me. Please be aware that I'm speaking of all recent RMs (the few of us, as Eric hinted, which includes myself) and

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Bill, all you had to say was We really need to get 2.4.5 out. That's it. I agree. In fact I've been pushing for it quite a bit, and for a longer time, including those long periods when you've been completely off the grid.

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Wednesday 10 July 2013, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:18:06 +1000 Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: on holiday with a dog slow 3G vpn tonight, so I'll be brief (and wont see any replies until I return on Sunday...) I have never agreed with any release

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Note that the release windows we are discussing have been far longer than a month (or I would not have bothered to bring this up), fair? For example, 2.0.65 was lingering almost a year. 2.4.5 is now into its second

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:59:46 -0400 Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:34 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Note that the release windows we are discussing have been far longer than a month (or I would not have bothered to bring this up), fair?

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread Graham Leggett
On 10 Jul 2013, at 9:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Right, but let's just take a look at our official STATUS and how you have treated it in the past year, and how that differed from 2.2...

Re: [discuss] The 'RM' Baton [was: VOTE]

2013-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:38:00 +0200 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 10 Jul 2013, at 9:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: At what times was the tree 'open to tag' by any RM? You effectively placed a block on potential release activity and held STATUS hostage