Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2013-03-12 Thread Dwayne Miller
My apologies for the Disclaimer at the bottom. I had forgotten that it was appended to all outgoing email. I've asked that it be not appended to dev-http email address, so this is basically my test to see if that work was done correctly. 2 questions to start: - where does one find the approved

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2013-03-12 Thread Gregg Smith
On 3/12/2013 11:10 AM, Dwayne Miller wrote: My apologies for the Disclaimer at the bottom. I had forgotten that it was appended to all outgoing email. I've asked that it be not appended to dev-http email address, so this is basically my test to see if that work was done correctly. 2 questions

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2013-03-11 Thread Dwayne Miller
I'm rejoining this list after several years of inactivity. I'm joining primarily in regards to this thread. I would like to help if possible. I'm also curious as to the reason for the absence of the MSI build for the two most recent releases? Is this a volunteer issue? Is it a technology

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2013-03-11 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:41:48 + Dwayne Miller dwayne.mil...@nc4.us wrote: I'm rejoining this list after several years of inactivity. I'm joining primarily in regards to this thread. I would like to help if possible. We are starting from scratch with 2.4.x. Several key reasons; - Long

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Igor Galić
- Original Message - On 11/28/2012 1:26 AM, Igor Galić wrote: I believe there's a couple of things we all sort of agree on: * current state is not welcomed by users and early adopters I'm not sure what you mean by current state. Regardless, early adopters know no better. * we

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Eric Covener
Has anyone consider that in the meanwhile we update our website to officially endorse ApacheLounge? -0.9; Seems like a lot of baggage to carry, and I think we should have our own contributed builds.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/29/2012 7:42 AM, Igor Galić wrote: Has anyone consider that in the meanwhile we update our website to officially endorse ApacheLounge? Not endorse any, just list the possibilities, there are a few.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
+1 On Nov 29, 2012 2:34 PM, Gregg Smith g...@gknw.net wrote: On 11/29/2012 7:42 AM, Igor Galić wrote: Has anyone consider that in the meanwhile we update our website to officially endorse ApacheLounge? Not endorse any, just list the possibilities, there are a few.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Gregg Smith g...@gknw.net wrote: On 11/29/2012 7:42 AM, Igor Galić wrote: Has anyone consider that in the meanwhile we update our website to officially endorse ApacheLounge? Not endorse any, just list the possibilities, there are a few. I definitely feel

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Will
Does you guys agree with the layout that Apache Lounge uses? -Will - Original Message - From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build +1 On Nov 29, 2012 2:34 PM, Gregg

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Will william.leon...@lxcenter.org wrote: Does you guys agree with the layout that Apache Lounge uses? I wouldn't interpret the proposal that way.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-29 Thread Will
I would just like to know your thoughts on the layout that they use with the zip. -Will - Original Message - From: Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Thu, Nov 29, 2012

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Igor Galić
- Original Message - the only point to resolve is that Gregg cant do the releases self but needs a PMC for signing and putting up the artifacts - but I'm willing to assist with that once we get some agreement to put his stuff up Sorry for not commenting earlier . I'm +0.9

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Igor Galić i.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: * we (the ASF) should provide an official Windows Build Why?

RE: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Plüm , Rüdiger , Vodafone Group
-Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 13:22 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Igor Galić i.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: * we (the ASF) should

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Igor Galić
- Original Message - -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 13:22 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Igor Galić i.ga

RE: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread PKU-bswen
:22 PM To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:26 AM, Igor Galić i.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: * we (the ASF) should provide an official Windows Build Why?

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread André Malo
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 15:01:15 Igor Galić wrote: - Original Message - -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 13:22 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Yehuda Katz
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, André Malo n...@perlig.de wrote: You know that, and I know that. Jst as our Windows users know they have no use for source code. The discussion is moot. The ASF will not provide binary software. Is that a new policy? ASF has provided (i.e. made available

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread André Malo
On Wednesday 28 November 2012 17:02:30 Yehuda Katz wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, André Malo n...@perlig.de wrote: You know that, and I know that. Jst as our Windows users know they have no use for source code. The discussion is moot. The ASF will not provide binary software.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/28/2012 1:26 AM, Igor Galić wrote: I believe there's a couple of things we all sort of agree on: * current state is not welcomed by users and early adopters I'm not sure what you mean by current state. Regardless, early adopters know no better. * we (the ASF) should provide an official

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/28/2012 8:10 AM, André Malo wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2012 17:02:30 Yehuda Katz wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:35 AM, André Malon...@perlig.de wrote: You know that, and I know that. Jst as our Windows users know they have no use for source code. The discussion is moot. The ASF

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread André Malo
* Gregg Smith wrote: On 11/28/2012 8:10 AM, André Malo wrote: Some individuals have provided those builds. Nobody has voted on them (because, how could one - I know, I wouldn't). They are not official relases. Which to the average user that does not know this policy, can easily be

RE: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 12:27 +, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 13:22 To: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build On Nov 28, 2012, at 4

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/28/2012 7:20 PM, Noel Butler wrote: There is far far far more httpd users on other operating systems than windows, what next, do binaries for all maintained RH, Suse, Gentoo, BSD, debian.. and so on as well... I mean surely nobody wants to be seen as catering for the minority

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-28 Thread Issac Goldstand
The discussion is moot. The ASF will not provide binary software. nd laughs Yeah, try selling that to the AOO project and see what happens... Issac

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-27 Thread Igor Galić
Hey folks, just to revive this thread again, here's a current comment thread to our documentation on: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#comment_502 There's a couple of things to take away from this: * We made no announcements (on our website) that we're essentially

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Igor Galić i.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: Hey folks, just to revive this thread again, here's a current comment thread to our documentation on: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#comment_502 There's a couple of things to take away

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-27 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hey folks, Am 27.11.2012 19:13, schrieb Eric Covener: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Igor Galići.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: just to revive this thread again, here's a current comment thread to our documentation on: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/platform/windows.html#comment_502

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-27 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/27/2012 5:11 PM, Guenter Knauf wrote: Hey folks, Am 27.11.2012 19:13, schrieb Eric Covener: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Igor Galići.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: just to revive this thread again, here's a current comment thread to our documentation on:

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Covener
the only point to resolve is that Gregg cant do the releases self but needs a PMC for signing and putting up the artifacts - but I'm willing to assist with that once we get some agreement to put his stuff up Sorry for not commenting earlier . I'm +0.9 (+1 but know this stuff is not up my

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-18 Thread Igor Galić
- Original Message - On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Issac Goldstand mar...@beamartyr.net wrote: Why not go the IIS route and use a c:\wwwroot or the like for non program-file stuff (logs, cgi-bin, docs, htdocs, conf)? That is similar to what the Debian package maintainers

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-18 Thread Graham Leggett
On 18 Nov 2012, at 4:41 PM, Igor Galić i.ga...@brainsware.org wrote: Seeing how much trouble Debian's default layout causes for support I'd rather we don't mess with that. Our layout is well defined, well documented and well tested. Moving everything elsewhere is confusing at best. +1. At

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-17 Thread Issac Goldstand
Program Files vs. drive root PF pros everything in there is protected from users other than admin PF cons everything in there is protected from users other than admin which In Vista/7/8 the administrator account is disabled but you can run things as admin if your user has admin privileges.

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-17 Thread Yehuda Katz
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Issac Goldstand mar...@beamartyr.netwrote: Why not go the IIS route and use a c:\wwwroot or the like for non program-file stuff (logs, cgi-bin, docs, htdocs, conf)? That is similar to what the Debian package maintainers do (see

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-16 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/14/2012 3:56 AM, Guenter Knauf wrote: Am 14.11.2012 12:53, schrieb Guenter Knauf: I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should push this out, but there was no further interest / agreement here :-(

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-16 Thread Gregg Smith
On 11/16/2012 12:08 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: On 11/14/2012 3:56 AM, Guenter Knauf wrote: Am 14.11.2012 12:53, schrieb Guenter Knauf: I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should push this out, but there was

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-16 Thread Christophe JAILLET
Le 16/11/2012 21:21, Gregg Smith a écrit : Another 'something' is NSIS (Nullsoft) which has been picked up by others and is over at sourceforge. I used to use it a long time ago but had to give it up for Inno Setup because it was dropped by the original author. A nice thing about it is the use

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-16 Thread Will
to drive an MSI build On 11/16/2012 12:08 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: On 11/14/2012 3:56 AM, Guenter Knauf wrote: Am 14.11.2012 12:53, schrieb Guenter Knauf: I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should push

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-14 Thread Guenter Knauf
Am 12.11.2012 17:45, schrieb Issac Goldstand: but we really need something. I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should push this out, but there was no further interest / agreement here :-( Gregg, can

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-14 Thread Guenter Knauf
Am 14.11.2012 12:53, schrieb Guenter Knauf: Am 12.11.2012 17:45, schrieb Issac Goldstand: but we really need something. I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should push this out, but there was no further

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-14 Thread Igor Galić
- Original Message - Am 14.11.2012 12:53, schrieb Guenter Knauf: Am 12.11.2012 17:45, schrieb Issac Goldstand: but we really need something. I know that Gregg has 'something' which is not MSI but an EXE installer, but it works, and I asked already a while back if we should

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-12 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 12/11/2012 15:15, Igor Galić wrote: to setup a Windows Server VM/buildbot - and am now looking for volunteers to step forward. - Just raise your hand here and update the the above ticket with your Apache ID. (Yes, you need to be a committer already) Raises hand...

Re: Volunteers to drive an MSI build

2012-11-12 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 12/11/2012 18:03, Yehuda Katz wrote: William Rowe said he was working on a new WiX-based installer That would be great if Bill has the cycles to push it through - I know he's been uber-busy for a long while already, and he has the best working knowledge of windows installer-y things so