Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 09.02.2018 um 21:21 schrieb Roy T. Fielding : >> On Feb 9, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Stefan Eissing >> wrote: >>> Am 09.02.2018 um 16:12 schrieb Daniel : >>> >>> I'm getting lost. >>> >>> What would VirtualServer tag mean

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Roy T. Fielding
> On Feb 9, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Stefan Eissing > wrote: >> Am 09.02.2018 um 16:12 schrieb Daniel : >> >> I'm getting lost. >> >> What would VirtualServer tag mean exactly? >> >> Thanks in advance and apologies for my slowness :) > > The

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Stefan Eissing
> Am 09.02.2018 um 16:12 schrieb Daniel : > > I'm getting lost. > > What would VirtualServer tag mean exactly? > > Thanks in advance and apologies for my slowness :) The intention of VirtualServer is to solve common properties for a range of VirtualHosts. It's a level

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Daniel
I'm getting lost. What would VirtualServer tag mean exactly? Thanks in advance and apologies for my slowness :) 2018-02-09 13:42 GMT+01:00 Stefan Eissing : > > >> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:25 schrieb Yann Ylavic : >> >> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:04

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Stefan Eissing
> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:25 schrieb Yann Ylavic : > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Stefan Eissing > wrote: >> >> >>> Am 06.02.2018 um 08:13 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : >>> >>> Forgive the top-post, Gmail app sucks.

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Stefan Eissing
> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:28 schrieb Eric Covener : > >> That is one possible way to address this. However, since VirtualHost >> requires at least one address, this would be confusing: >> >> >> ServerName example.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What would NNN be or

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Eric Covener
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Stefan Eissing > wrote: >> >> >>> Am 06.02.2018 um 08:13 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : >>> >>> Forgive the top-post, Gmail app sucks. >>>

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Eric Covener
> That is one possible way to address this. However, since VirtualHost requires > at least one address, this would be confusing: > > >ServerName example.org > > > > > > > What would NNN be or what would it mean? Would it also be inherited by the > nested vhosts? This is

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: > > >> Am 06.02.2018 um 08:13 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : >> >> Forgive the top-post, Gmail app sucks. >> >> Thanks for taking the time for tl;dr - it sums up the current situation >> really

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-09 Thread Stefan Eissing
> Am 06.02.2018 um 08:13 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : > > Forgive the top-post, Gmail app sucks. > > Thanks for taking the time for tl;dr - it sums up the current situation > really well. > > I pointed out some months ago that the matching foo in vhosts is weak, since >

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Forgive the top-post, Gmail app sucks. Thanks for taking the time for tl;dr - it sums up the current situation really well. I pointed out some months ago that the matching foo in vhosts is weak, since we have a 1:1 ip:port relationship. We determined that can change in the next iteration to

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Luca Toscano wrote: >> I am a bit ignorant about mod_bmx so I'd need to ask some follow up >> questions: how is it going to solve Stefan's points? As a far as I can

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Steffen
I was triggered by IO stats he was mentioned: For example,settings and locations for access logging would be nice to have. IO Stats as well. > Op 5 feb. 2018 om 02:47 heeft Eric Covener het volgende > geschreven: > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Luca Toscano

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Eric Covener
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Luca Toscano wrote: > I am a bit ignorant about mod_bmx so I'd need to ask some follow up > questions: how is it going to solve Stefan's points? As a far as I can see > it is a very nice architecture to query metrics and process them via >

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Luca Toscano
I am a bit ignorant about mod_bmx so I'd need to ask some follow up questions: how is it going to solve Stefan's points? As a far as I can see it is a very nice architecture to query metrics and process them via plugins, so I'd be super glad to see it integrated to power up our status page but I

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 > On Feb 4, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Steffen wrote: > > There is already Basic Management eXtensions for Apache : mod_bmx is handling > vhosts. > > https://github.com/hyperic/mod_bmx/ > > Using it on windows with mrtg and mod_watch to

Re: The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Steffen
There is already Basic Management eXtensions for Apache : mod_bmx is handling vhosts. https://github.com/hyperic/mod_bmx/ Using it on windows with mrtg and mod_watch to create nice graphs per vhost. An issue is that it is not collecting incoming traffic, Bill(William Rowe) is looking for a

The Case for Managed Domains

2018-02-04 Thread Stefan Eissing
(Apart from my direct comments in my previous reply in the ServerUID discussion, I offer a little essay about my motivation in this topic for the interested, as it is related to the mod_md design I did. It is long. Please feel free to ignore it.) When thinking about adding ACME support to