The word on: adding modules

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
Right now, as devlopers, we have a whole range of methods of adding in a module; from hacking it in, copying it into an existing modules/* directory (e.g. auth, mappers), APXS all the way, down to its own directory with a little config.m4. When documenting 'How to add your modules to apache 2.0

Re: [PATCH] increase file descriptor limit automatically at httpd startup

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
Brian Pane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This patch increases the maximum number of open files > at httpd startup. Before I commit, does anyone have a > scenario in which it won't be safe to do this? devil's advocate comments: 1) why write code to do something the user can easily take care of?

Re: umask and modules/dav/fs

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
Scott Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to allow people to update a website either through their > shell account or WebDAV. My problem is permissions. I can make a group > "somewebsite" including users apache, bob, and charlie. Then I can > make all the directories setgid. When bob and

[PATCH] XHTML1.1 Error-Docs

2002-07-10 Thread Erik Abele
Hi! Some weeks ago I posted the attached patch on the docs-list. Last week I posted it a second time, but didn't receive any replies. Therefore I am posting it here on the dev-list... The patch modifies the present error doc templates (spacer.html, top.html, bottom.html) to be valid XHTML 1.1 do

[PATCH] Patch to compile apache-1.3.20+ on LynxOS-3.0.1

2002-07-10 Thread Fulvio Bille`
Hi, this patch enable to run configure and compile on LynxOS-3.0.1 Any source file is modified. Only Configure, GuessOS, mkshadow.sh and ap_config.h are modified. Bye. Fulvio Bille` === diff -ruN ./src/Configure ../apache_1.3.26

[PATCH] define proxy-specific hook macros

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
This defines macros similar to the AP_ counterparts in ap_config.h. I was playing with a new proxy hook and optionally implementing the hook in a non-proxy module when I encountered the need to use APR_ hook macros to make it work. It would seem to be consistent and friendly to define these new

Re: time for a 2.0.40 me thinks

2002-07-10 Thread Brian Pane
Bill Stoddard wrote: >>William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> >> >> >>>At 12:18 PM 7/9/2002, Bill Stoddard wrote: >>> >>> >>> >I'm going to do a start the T&R process on thursday for a 2.0.40 > > release >so if you've got things which you want in

proxy debug messages and passwords :)

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
I overlaid the actual logged password with in the messages below. Maybe proxy should contruct a printable URL for use in debug messages, where the optional password has been replaced with ? or some other character? [Wed Jul 10 09:14:31 2002] [debug] proxy_ftp.c(193): proxy: FTP: canonic

when to whack exports.c (to handle weird cases)

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
A little bird told me that exports.c is not automatically regenerated if you remove a header file. You have to manually remove exports.c or run "make extraclean." The normal user would probably think that "make clean" would clean up any such issues. Does anybody care? If so, it should be suffi

Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
In apache 1.3 we had this little trick: if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then conf_port="8080" fi to make the port 8080 when the user is not root - thus to reduce the number of 'apache wont start' newby errors and be generally convenient for the masses (and

MacOS X 10.1.2 libtool

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
Any one seen this error, on a pristine MacOS X 10.1.2 machine with a freshly cut 2.0.39: cd httpd-2.0.39 ./configure --prefix=/foo make && make install cd ../test apxs -c mod_foo.c and then just before then end one gets:

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In apache 1.3 we had this little trick: > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > conf_port="8080" > fi > > to make the port 8080 when the user is not root - thus to reduce the > number of 'apache wont start' new

Preventing access to certain files via the server process

2002-07-10 Thread Ravindra Jaju
Hi. Consider the following scenario. In directory PRODIR ( short for protected directory ), I have certain files which contain sensitive information ( say, database passwords, embedded in some PHP scripts ). Let's consider "passwords.inc" The PRODIR is protected with the .htaccess file, so no o

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Ravindra Jaju
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:49:25AM -0700, Joshua Slive wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In apache 1.3 we had this little trick: > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > conf_port="8080" > > fi > > > > to make the port 8080 when

Re: [PATCH] increase file descriptor limit automatically at httpdstartup

2002-07-10 Thread Brian Pane
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 04:16, Jeff Trawick wrote: > Brian Pane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This patch increases the maximum number of open files > > at httpd startup. Before I commit, does anyone have a > > scenario in which it won't be safe to do this? > > devil's advocate comments: > >

RE: [PATCH] increase file descriptor limit automatically at httpdstartup

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Brian Pane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 17:00 > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 04:16, Jeff Trawick wrote: >> Brian Pane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > What do you think about about setting the ulimit in apachectl > (and not in the httpd) by default? > > That would provide

Re: [PATCH] increase file descriptor limit automatically at httpd startup

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
Brian Pane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > 2) shouldn't the user be able to control how many file descriptors > >can be used by Apache? in general, they should be able to mitigate > >the resource growth caused by an Apache or module bug by playing > >with soft limits > > > >a) t

Re: [PATCH] increase file descriptor limit automatically at httpdstartup

2002-07-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
"Sander Striker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > From: Brian Pane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 10 July 2002 17:00 > > > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 04:16, Jeff Trawick wrote: > >> Brian Pane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > What do you think about about setting the ulimit in apachect

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to Ravindra Jaju: > How about an extra echo: > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > conf_port="8080" > echo "Non-root process. Server will run on port $conf_port" > fi +1 ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> From: Lars Eilebrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > According to Ravindra Jaju: > > > How about an extra echo: > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > conf_port="8080" > > echo "Non-root process. Server will run on port $conf_port" > > fi > > +1 The pr

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: > According to Ravindra Jaju: > > > How about an extra echo: > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > conf_port="8080" > > echo "Non-root process. Server will run on port $conf_port" > > fi > > +1 > I don't see how

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Thom May
* Ravindra Jaju ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:49:25AM -0700, Joshua Slive wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In apache 1.3 we had this little trick: > > > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > > conf_p

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jacek Prucia
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Slive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: > > > According to Ravindra Jaju: > > > > > How about an extra echo: > > > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > > conf_port="8080" > >

Re: MacOS X 10.1.2 libtool

2002-07-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any one seen this error, on a pristine MacOS X 10.1.2 machine with a > freshly cut 2.0.39: > > cd httpd-2.0.39 > ./configure --prefix=/foo > make && make install > cd ../test > apxs -c mod_foo.c > > and then just before then end one gets:

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Thom May wrote: > > > How about an extra echo: > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > conf_port="8080" > > echo "Non-root process. Server will run on port $conf_port" > > fi > > I think the best solution is to educate the user, rather than to do > somethi

RE: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Ryan Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 17:20 >> From: Lars Eilebrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> According to Ravindra Jaju: >> >>> How about an extra echo: >>> >>> if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then >>> conf_port="8080" >>> echo

Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
Right now there are zillions of 1.3 auth modules around which have a check_auth() stage which essentially does: for each require line do if require valid-user return OK if require user then

Re: The word on: adding modules

2002-07-10 Thread Harrie Hazewinkel
HI, I am probably not speaking for most of the modules. I have been doing patching of Apache forever, since otherwise certain information/functionality from Apache cannot be done in an SNMP managed way by MOD-SNMP. Harrie --On Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:26 PM +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> ->Or alternatively mod_auth is split into a mod_auth and a > a mod_require. The first does the File based username > checking; the latter does the "require valid-user", "require > user foo" checks. 'require group' can stay in mod_auth or > go into a mod_auth_group.

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > user foo" checks. 'require group' can stay in mod_auth or > > go into a mod_auth_group. > > Didn't we decide to take this approach like a year ago? Hmm - been asleep as usual - if so - I'd love to make that split right away ! I feel a patch com

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > user foo" checks. 'require group' can stay in mod_auth or > > > go into a mod_auth_group. > > > > Didn't we decide to take this approach like a year ago? > > Hmm - been asleep as usual

Re: MacOS X 10.1.2 libtool

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Temme
> /foo/runtime/build/libtool: parse error: condition expected: xyes = [3183] > But.. this does result in a functional module. This is an issue with stock GNU libtool 1.4.2 on this platform. It affects the binary file type of the linked module which would cause runtime breakage on darwin until, I

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Ryan Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 18:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Auth checker - long term goal.. > > > > > > -> Or alternatively mod_auth is split into a mod_auth and a > > a mod_require. The first does the File based username > > checkin

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
> > Ad **: Which of course would need another hook... and run method in > > apache 3.0. > > There is no reason to wait for Apache 3.0 to add a new hook. The whole > reason for the hook abstraction was to make adding hooks painless for > module authors. Well - but this is a rather fundamental AP

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Thom May
* Jim Jagielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Thom May wrote: > > > > > How about an extra echo: > > > > > > if [ "x`$aux/getuid.sh`" != "x0" -a "x$port" = "x" ]; then > > > conf_port="8080" > > > echo "Non-root process. Server will run on port $conf_port" > > > fi > > > > I think the best

Re: [PATCH] define proxy-specific hook macros

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:29 AM 7/10/2002, you wrote: >This defines macros similar to the AP_ counterparts in ap_config.h. I >was playing with a new proxy hook and optionally implementing the hook >in a non-proxy module when I encountered the need to use APR_ hook >macros to make it work. > >It would seem to be cons

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:22 AM 7/10/2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > > > user foo" checks. 'require group' can stay in mod_auth or > > > > go into a mod_auth_group. > > > > > > Didn't we decide to take this a

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Auth checker - long term goal.. > > At 11:22 AM 7/10/2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:39:29AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > I'm sorry, but that is completely bogus. If the API needs to change to > make things better, then change the API. Stop trying to open a new dev > branch when the current one is still moving forward quickly. We have > this discussion

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:07 PM 7/10/2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: >On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:39:29AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > I'm sorry, but that is completely bogus. If the API needs to change to > > make things better, then change the API. Stop trying to open a new dev > > branch when the current one is still

RE: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
I still believe that everything that is currently in ROADMAP can and should be implemented in 2.0. Ryan -- Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 645 Howard St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Francisco, CA > -Original Message- > Fr

OpenBSD/separation of priv's

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
What Theo is after with Monolithic is just the current fad-du-jour; separation of priv's like recently done in SSH. Our MPM's are a very cool starting point. Dw -- Dirk-Willem van Gulik

Re: [PATCH] mpm/winnt service permissions

2002-07-10 Thread David Shane Holden
That's the responsibility of Windows. By forcing admin privileges to call apache -k * isn't creating any kind of security. Anybody could create a simple five like program or open up services from the control panel to control apache if their account has the rights to do so. Just because apa

Re: The word on: adding modules

2002-07-10 Thread Harrie Hazewinkel
HI, I am probably not speaking for most of the modules. I have been doing patching of Apache forever, since otherwise certain information/functionality from Apache cannot be done in an SNMP managed way by MOD-SNMP. Harrie --On Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:26 PM +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:44:46AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > I still believe that everything that is currently in ROADMAP can and > should be implemented in 2.0. And my point is we won't know until there is a patch that solves one of the roadmap problems. Only then will we be able to decide. -a

Re: [PATCH] mpm/winnt service permissions

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:54 PM 7/10/2002, you wrote: > That's the responsibility of Windows. By forcing admin privileges to call >apache -k * isn't creating any kind of security. Anybody could create a >simple >five like program or open up services from the control panel to control apache >if their account has t

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:56 PM 7/10/2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: >On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:44:46AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > I still believe that everything that is currently in ROADMAP can and > > should be implemented in 2.0. > >And my point is we won't know until there is a patch that solves >one of the roadma

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Brian Pane
Aaron Bannert wrote: >On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:44:46AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > > >>I still believe that everything that is currently in ROADMAP can and >>should be implemented in 2.0. >> I agree. >And my point is we won't know until there is a patch that solves >one of the roadmap proble

Auth - how much legacy to preserve ?

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
While doing this patch (and ending up with 3 very small modules); I found the following legacy behaviour. Any feels as to if we shall kill these surprizing behaviourisms in 2.0 or stay as close to 1.3 as possibe ?: -> if there are no requires - but there is Auth happening we activel

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > From my perspective, the event that should cause us to branch for > a 2.1 or 3.0 release isn't "this code change is too drastic for 2.0" > but rather: "this new feature that's useful to customers is impossible > to build or maintain on

RE: OpenBSD/separation of priv's

2002-07-10 Thread Bill Stoddard
> What Theo is after with Monolithic is just the current fad-du-jour; > separation of priv's like recently done in SSH. > > Our MPM's are a very cool starting point. > > Dw > > -- > Dirk-Willem van Gulik > I had to laugh at the 'fad-du-jour' comment. This is very old hat with the IBM OS/390 crow

Re: [PATCH] Patch to compile apache-1.3.20+ on LynxOS-3.0.1

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
The patches look acceptable, except for the below... Why the change? '-depth' not supported in LynxOS's find? At 1:51 PM +0200 7/10/02, Fulvio Bille` wrote: >Hi, >this patch enable to run configure and compile on LynxOS-3.0.1 >Any source file is modified. >Only Configure, GuessOS, mkshadow.sh and

RE: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Thom May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 18:04 > * Jim Jagielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > Thom May wrote: > Please don't do this. We should_not_ be second guessing the user. > > > I'd prefer education but also that they get a configuration that they > > can test "

RE: OpenBSD/separation of priv's

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > What Theo is after with Monolithic is just the current fad-du-jour; ... > I had to laugh at the 'fad-du-jour' comment. This is very old hat with the > IBM OS/390 crowd. They've been doing that since the time the birds and trees L'Histoire se repete

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for ages? A 'make install; /bin/apachectl start' no matter who does the building has "always" resulted in at least a somewhat functional server. I don't see the reason for stopping a traditional behavior (and a possible expectation fro

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 03:12:07PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for > ages? A 'make install; /bin/apachectl start' no matter who does > the building has "always" resulted in at least a somewhat functional > server. I don't see the rea

Re: proxy debug messages and passwords :)

2002-07-10 Thread Graham Leggett
Jeff Trawick wrote: > Maybe proxy should contruct a printable URL for use in debug messages, > where the optional password has been replaced with ? or some other > character? I think proxy did at one stage, I recall seeing a function in there to strip passwords out. Will take a look in the next

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for None seen here. > ages? A 'make install; /bin/apachectl start' no matter who does > the building has "always" resulted in at least a somewhat functional > server. I don't see the reas

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 03:12:07PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for > > ages? A 'make install; /bin/apachectl start' no matter who does > > the building has "always" resulted in at least a somewhat func

RE: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 03:12:07PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for > > ages? A 'make install; /bin/apachectl start' no matter who does > > the building has "always" resulted

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ryan Bloom wrote: > > We have fixed our installation step to preserve existing config files, > so if you compile as a non-root user, and install over the top of an > existing installation, your port won't change. > > This only has to do with how the server is configured the FIRST time the > serv

Port in Makefile.in

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
We still seem to be pretending we have a Port directive in Apache 2.0. There's a superfluous -e 's#@@Port@@#$(PORT)#g' handling of the config files, if I'm reading Makefile.in right. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PRO

RE: Port in Makefile.in

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
You are. That's because we used to do the PORT replacement based on uid. Hm. If I had caught that when I removed Port, this discussion would never have happened. That is enough reason in my mind to add the feature back in. Ryan > We still seem to be pretending we have a Port directive in Apa

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for > ages? Yes. I've seen many confused people posting to comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix who where caught by exactly this issue. It usually starts with a basic query like "I installed

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Joshua Slive wrote: > Yes. I've seen many confused people posting to > comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix who where caught by exactly this > issue. It usually starts with a basic query like "I installed apache and > it says that it started successfully, but I can't access it.

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Thomas Eibner
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 12:30:35PM -0700, Joshua Slive wrote: > As I've said, this "cute" feature is confusing for newbies and irritating > for some legitimate users. The only people it helps are people who > install apache often for testing, and these people should know to use > --port on the co

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Temme
>> Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for >> ages? > > Yes. I've seen many confused people posting to > comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix who where caught by exactly this issue. > It usually starts with a basic query like "I installed apache and it says > that it star

"blank" Content-Length with Apache 2.0?

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Should we also allow "blank" Content-Length headers in 2.0? Even if not, it seems to me that in the normal case, we're subjecting each "char" in the C-L: value field to at least one check before we go ahead and determine the real value. It appears more efficient to me to go ahead and simply use s

RE: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Ryan Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 21:24 >> From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 03:12:07PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> Have there been any complaints about how 1.3 has been doing it for >>> ages? A 'make install; /bin/a

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 12:30:35PM -0700, Joshua Slive wrote: > ... The only people it helps are people who > install apache often for testing, and these people should know to use > --port on the configure command line. Oh don't get me started on that again... ;) -aaron

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
Who woudda thunk that such a minor thing would cause such a big discussion :) I love open source collaboration. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "A society that will trad

Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July 10)

2002-07-10 Thread Bill Stoddard
This is with Ryan's poll patch and some of my patches to mod_cache and mod_mem_cache (which I will publish later on). Unfortuanetely the results are difficult to compare with earlier results because my test tree was just too polluted with patches for Ryan's patch to cleanly apply. Still, the ove

Re: "blank" Content-Length with Apache 2.0?

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
I'm sort of dubious on the whole 'retain blank headers' bit. If we put them into the request_headers list, many modules might barf when they encounter them. Is it possible, by the protocol, to consider blank headers a noop, and simply not store them in the request headers array? E.g. no value [e

RE: Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July 10)

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
> From: Bill Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > This is with Ryan's poll patch and some of my patches to mod_cache and > mod_mem_cache (which I will publish later on). Unfortuanetely the results > are difficult to compare with earlier results because my test tree was > just > too polluted w

Re: Auth - how much legacy to preserve ?

2002-07-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Dirk, since you're working on a patch for Auth, would it be possible to have the groups list somewhere in the request structure? It would be great with web applications, where we can match groups with roles (therefore allowing authentication to be processed by apache entirely)... Pier [EMAIL

Re: Auth checker - long term goal..

2002-07-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ryan Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry, but that is completely bogus. If the API needs to change to > make things better, then change the API. Stop trying to open a new dev > branch when the current one is still moving forward quickly. We have > this discussion every few weeks now,

Re: Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July10)

2002-07-10 Thread Brian Pane
Bill Stoddard wrote: >Subroutine Name Source File Visit Enter % Ticks >=== === = = = >.ap_rgetline_coreprotocol.c 366 1.5 709 > Darn, all that optimization work and it's

Re: Port 80 vs 8080 when not SU.

2002-07-10 Thread Thom May
* Jim Jagielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Ryan Bloom wrote: > > > > We have fixed our installation step to preserve existing config files, > > so if you compile as a non-root user, and install over the top of an > > existing installation, your port won't change. > > > > This only has to do w

Re: Auth - how much legacy to preserve ?

2002-07-10 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Dirk, since you're working on a patch for Auth, would it be possible to have > the groups list somewhere in the request structure? It would be great with > web applications, where we can match groups with roles (therefore allowing > authentication to

Re: Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July 10)

2002-07-10 Thread Thom May
* Ryan Bloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > From: Bill Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > This is with Ryan's poll patch and some of my patches to mod_cache and > > mod_mem_cache (which I will publish later on). Unfortuanetely the > results > > are difficult to compare with earlier res

RE: Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July 10)

2002-07-10 Thread Sander Striker
> From: Ryan Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 10 July 2002 22:55 > > From: Bill Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > This is with Ryan's poll patch and some of my patches to mod_cache and > > mod_mem_cache (which I will publish later on). Unfortuanetely the > results > > are diff

Re: Auth - how much legacy to preserve ?

2002-07-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > >> Dirk, since you're working on a patch for Auth, would it be possible to have >> the groups list somewhere in the request structure? It would be great with >> web applications, where we can match gro

httpd-ldap maintained?

2002-07-10 Thread Scott Lamb
Is httpd-ldap being maintained? Is this the appropriate list to ask about it? With the worker MPM, it seems to work - ldap_status doesn't ever show anything being cached, but mod_auth_ldap authenticates correctly. With the prefork MPM (I had unrelated problems with worker), it's going horribl

Re: Auth - how much legacy to preserve ?

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:27 PM 7/10/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > > Dirk, since you're working on a patch for Auth, would it be possible to > have > > the groups list somewhere in the request structure? It would be great with > > web applications, where we can match

RE: Apache 2 instruction count profile (head as of ~15:00 EDT July 10)

2002-07-10 Thread Bill Stoddard
Looks like your last commit to apr_tables.c was 4 days ago. This run was using code I pulled from CVS this afternoon. Bill > > Bill Stoddard wrote: > > >Subroutine Name Source File Visit > Enter % Ticks > >=== === =

[STATUS] (apache-1.3) Wed Jul 10 23:45:06 EDT 2002

2002-07-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 1.3 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2002/06/27 20:57:21 $] Release: 1.3.27-dev: In development 1.3.26: Tagged June 18, 2002. 1.3.25: Tagged June 17, 2002. Not released. 1.3.24: Tagged Mar 21, 2002. Announced Mar 22, 20

[STATUS] (httpd-2.0) Wed Jul 10 23:45:09 EDT 2002

2002-07-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE 2.0 STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2002/06/28 20:16:26 $] Release: 2.0.40 : in development. 2.0.39 : rolled June 17, 2002. 2.0.38 : rolled June 16, 2002. not released. 2.0.37 : rolled June 11, 2002. not releas

Re: quick docs patch..

2002-07-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:21 AM 7/1/2002, you wrote: >Quick patch to bring some old docs up-to-date. Do we even care to freshen these? Seems like it's about time to kill this bird. Bill >-- >James Cox :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Landonize It! http://landonize.it/ >Was I helpful? http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/w

RE: quick docs patch..

2002-07-10 Thread James Cox
Well, we have two (maybe 3) options. We can either kill it all, or keep it up-to-date, or just ignore them, and label them so but having links that end up as 404's probably don't help, imho. -- james > > At 02:21 AM 7/1/2002, you wrote: > >Quick patch to bring some old docs up-to-date. > >

apr_poll() done.

2002-07-10 Thread Ryan Bloom
Thanks to Will doing the work for Windows, the apr_poll() move is done. Most of the current platforms are actually using a select() based implementation, so instead of duplicating logic again, every platform except for OS/2 is using the Unix poll.c file. The only implementation that is likely to

Re: [PATCH] Patch to compile apache-1.3.20+ on LynxOS-3.0.1

2002-07-10 Thread Fulvio Bille`
Hi. I have LynxOS 3.0.1 on 68k, and I confirm that find doesn't have the option "-depth". I'm sorry but I think that the mailer have wrapped some line of the patch, corrupting its. So I re-send the patch as attachment. Bye. Jim Jagielski wrote: > The patches look acceptable, except for the belo