Re: Short or long variable names?

2004-11-22 Thread Jeff White
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. One (extreme) hassle is leaving the httpd code legible to httpd'ers and leaving .NET code legible to .NET'ers. I had chosen the conventions of using 'traditional' variable names for httpd datum, and 'wordy' variable names for the internals of Apache.Web. In

Re: Build ways

2004-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Feel free to offer a patch to build under nant, msbuild or any method that proves viable! The problem, is that the delayimp.lib is not distributed with the .NET Visual C++ compiler - this makes it impossible to build our c++ code outside of the full Visual Studio. I'm actually much more

Re: Short or long variable names?

2004-11-22 Thread Jeff White
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. let me get ahold of my life first I see you doing so much, what life? More later Jeff

Compiling flood-0.4

2004-11-22 Thread Rick Tan
When we attempted to run make, we ran into the following build/rules.mk:57: /build/config_vars.mk: No such file or directory What option if any controls the location of config_vars.mk? Thanks.

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-22 Thread Mathias Herberts
Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. Support for mod_backhand seems to be a significant reason (and getting backhand ported to v2.0 would be a win): Apart from backhand, are there in

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-22 Thread Nick Kew
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Mathias Herberts wrote: The main reason why we are not migrating to 2 is related to bug 17877 I filed for Apache 1.3 last year. Erm, you file a bug report for Apache 1 and treat it as a reason not to upgrade to apache 2? Should I Cc: this to Scott Adams? If you'd filed a

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-22 Thread Mathias Herberts
Nick Kew wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Mathias Herberts wrote: The main reason why we are not migrating to 2 is related to bug 17877 I filed for Apache 1.3 last year. Erm, you file a bug report for Apache 1 and treat it as a reason not to upgrade to apache 2? Should I Cc: this to Scott Adams?

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-22 Thread Nick Kew
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Mathias Herberts wrote: Nick Kew wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Mathias Herberts wrote: The main reason why we are not migrating to 2 is related to bug 17877 I filed for Apache 1.3 last year. Erm, you file a bug report for Apache 1 and treat it as a reason not to

[PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Orton
There's another mod_deflate vs 304 response problem which is being triggered by ViewCVS on svn.apache.org: when a CGI script gives a Status: 304 response the brigade contains a CGI bucket then the EOS, so fails the if this brigade begins with EOS do nothing test added for the proxied-304 case. I

Re: mod_cgid, unix socket, ScriptSock directive

2004-11-22 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:11:34 -0500, Jeff Trawick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ScriptSock directive must be used when there are two instances of the server with same ServerRoot. If it is omitted, symptoms may include . wrong credentials for CGIs . CGIs stop working for one server when other

Re: Event MPM - CLOSE_WAITs

2004-11-22 Thread Greg Ames
Paul Querna wrote: I have Paul's version of the Event MPM patch up and running. The only glitch I saw bringing it up was a warning for two unused variables in http_core.c (patchlet below). Then I tried stressing it with SPECweb99 and saw some errors after several minutes: [error] (24)Too

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN migration complete

2004-11-22 Thread Bill Stoddard
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 11:03 PM 11/19/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Friday, November 19, 2004 8:01 PM -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll offer compelling argument. Allen offered patches, which Roy vetoed, to fix object sizes on 32/64/64 ILP bit platforms, and

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN migration complete

2004-11-22 Thread Bill Stoddard
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 08:23 AM 11/20/2004, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Nov 20, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: So, my opinion is that we let Allen branch apr off now and let him go at it at a measured pace, but we shouldn't intend to hold httpd 2.2 for that. -- justin +1. Of

Re: End of Life Policy

2004-11-22 Thread Bill Stoddard
Paul Querna wrote: So, we are nearing a new stable branch. For the first time in a long time we will have a no-longer-developed-but-stable-branch in wide use. (2.0.x) I would like to have a semi-official policy on how long we will provide security backports for 2.0 releases. I suggest a

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN migration complete

2004-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:08 AM 11/22/2004, Bill Stoddard wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 08:23 AM 11/20/2004, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Nov 20, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: So, my opinion is that we let Allen branch apr off now and let him go at it at a measured pace, but we shouldn't intend

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-22 Thread Graham Leggett
Nick Kew wrote: Well, mod_proxy in Apache 1.x doesn't claim to be HTTP/1.1, so there's no reason it should be expected to support chunked encoding. And since Apache 1.x is a maintenance-only product not in active development, that's not too likely to change - ever. The mod_proxy in v1.3 does

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Jim Jagielski
Bill Stoddard wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 08:23 AM 11/20/2004, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Nov 20, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: So, my opinion is that we let Allen branch apr off now and let him go at it at a measured pace, but we shouldn't intend to hold

Re: End of Life Policy

2004-11-22 Thread Wayne S. Frazee
On Monday 22 November 2004 09:11, Bill Stoddard wrote: Why drive artificial constraints on any of our release processes? If a sizeable number of people (ie, a community) are interested in maintaining 2.0 for the next 20 years, then why prevent it 'by decree'? Id certainly have to agree with

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Joe Orton wrote: There's another mod_deflate vs 304 response problem which is being triggered by ViewCVS on svn.apache.org: when a CGI script gives a Status: 304 response the brigade contains a CGI bucket then the EOS, so fails the if this brigade begins with EOS do

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Graham Leggett
Cliff Woolley wrote: Okay, but why the next three lines? Why would Content-Encoding: gzip *ever* be set on a 304? In theory the 304 might be in response to a freshness check on the particular variant that was compressed. (Assuming I am not mixing up my content and transfer encodings). Regards,

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Orton
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:26:18AM -0500, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Joe Orton wrote: There's another mod_deflate vs 304 response problem which is being triggered by ViewCVS on svn.apache.org: when a CGI script gives a Status: 304 response the brigade contains a CGI bucket

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN migration complete

2004-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:08 AM 11/22/2004, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yes - I understand that this means 1.x will never be used by httpd. Version numbers are cheap. The APR project should become used to this, if they are active, and httpd moves at it's normal pace,

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Joe Orton wrote: Okay, but why the next three lines? Why would Content-Encoding: gzip *ever* be set on a 304? I was wondering that too. The answer to the latter is that it *won't* be sent for a 304 because the http_header filter knows better than that. Well, okay.

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN migration complete

2004-11-22 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yes - I understand that this means 1.x will never be used by httpd. Version numbers are cheap. The APR project should become used to this, if they are active, and httpd moves at it's normal pace, it would be easy to go through APR 2.x, 3.x,

Re: mod_cgid, unix socket, ScriptSock directive

2004-11-22 Thread André Malo
* Jeff Trawick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: code to check for the misconfiguration is small and is expected to be fool-proof (independent of what the user does); also, no way the change can result in stale unix sockets left around, unlike sticking the pid in the filename see patch in

Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Graham Leggett
Hi all, I have attached a small filter module that strips leading whitespace from text files. This would typically be used to remove the indenting whitespace found inside HTML files, resulting in a significant reduction in network traffic for some sites. I didn't bother to include trailing

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, November 22, 2004 11:27 AM -0500 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree... Otherwise, we won't see many people move to 2.2 since 3rd party modules won't be available for it, since module developers will know that within a short amount of time, they'll need to redo their

Re: Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Bill Stoddard
Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I have attached a small filter module that strips leading whitespace from text files. This would typically be used to remove the indenting whitespace found inside HTML files, resulting in a significant reduction in network traffic for some sites. I didn't bother

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN

2004-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:17 PM 11/22/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I expect that as it stands right now most 2.0 modules will compile for 2.2 with very minor (if any) changes. If we 'fix' 64-bit issues now, then that means that their modules are going to undergo massive changes. This I will attest to;

Re: svn commit: r106181 - httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/docs/manual/mod

2004-11-22 Thread Rich Bowen
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: nd Date: Mon Nov 22 05:43:39 2004 New Revision: 106181 Modified: httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/docs/manual/mod/core.html.de httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/docs/manual/mod/core.html.en httpd/httpd/branches/2.0.x/docs/manual/mod/core.html.ja.euc-jp

YAML: httpd distro package managers

2004-11-22 Thread Rich Bowen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Due to the huge variety and creativity displayed by those fine folks who package the Apache Web Server up for distribution with the gzillion operating systems which come with it, users tend to have problems with the default configuration, which seem

Re: 2.2 roadmap with respect to APR was Re: [NOTICE] CVS to SVN

2004-11-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, November 22, 2004 1:08 PM -0600 William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That *will* affect the 2.2 uptake rate because our third parties will take a lot of time to get their modules 64-bit clean (if they do at all). WHO CARES?!? That's on them. They can release bug fixes

Re: Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Graham Leggett
Bill Stoddard wrote: +1 in concept but code not reviewed. mod_deflate would effectivly do the same thing, right? What user base would are we targeting with this module (looking for an answer a bit more specific than 'web clients that don't support gzip decoding'). Bandwidth reduction for

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:26 AM 11/22/2004, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Joe Orton wrote: There's another mod_deflate vs 304 response problem which is being triggered by ViewCVS on svn.apache.org: when a CGI script gives a Status: 304 response the brigade contains a CGI bucket then the EOS, so fails

Re: Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Young
Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I have attached a small filter module that strips leading whitespace from text files. This would typically be used to remove the indenting whitespace found inside HTML files, resulting in a significant reduction in network traffic for some sites. I didn't

Re: YAML: httpd distro package managers

2004-11-22 Thread Mads Toftum
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 11:29:01AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: To that end, I'd like to request Yet Another Mailing List, called something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], or some such. The list would be public, although I'd be willing to moderate if needed. Thoughts? +1 - imo

Re: YAML: httpd distro package managers

2004-11-22 Thread Graham Leggett
Mads Toftum wrote: +1 - imo there's more than enough mutilated httpd packages out there to warrant such a list. Perhaps packagers@ would be better? Would a packagers' list be restricted to httpd only, or would it include other projects like APR? I think it should. Regards, Graham -- smime.p7s

Re: YAML: httpd distro package managers

2004-11-22 Thread Mads Toftum
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:23:41PM +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: Would a packagers' list be restricted to httpd only, or would it include other projects like APR? I think it should. APR being a prerequisite for httpd certainly makes me think the same - but I don't think we should spread

Re: YAML: httpd distro package managers

2004-11-22 Thread Paul Querna
Mads Toftum wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 10:23:41PM +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: Would a packagers' list be restricted to httpd only, or would it include other projects like APR? I think it should. APR being a prerequisite for httpd certainly makes me think the same - but I don't think we

Re: svn commit: r105919 - in httpd/httpd/trunk: include modules/http server/mpm server/mpm/experimental/event

2004-11-22 Thread Greg Ames
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log: The Event MPM. woo-hoo! Thanks for driving this, Paul, and thanks to Justin and Sander for all the svn work. Status: Should work as a drop in replacement for all non-ssl servers. SSL Requests that use HTTP 1.1 Pipelining do not currently work. cannot confirm or

Re: 2.1.1 tarballs posted...

2004-11-22 Thread Matthieu Estrade
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Grab the 2.1.1 tarballs while they're fresh. Please start testing these releases - they should have the intent of becoming the beginning of the 2.2.x series modulo all of the cleanup work we'll have to do after we branch. For now,

Re: Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: I have attached a small filter module that strips leading whitespace from text files. This would typically be used to remove the indenting whitespace found inside HTML files, resulting in a significant reduction in network traffic for some sites. I

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread TOKILEY
At 10:26 AM 11/22/2004, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Joe Orton wrote: There's another mod_deflate vs 304 response problem which is being triggered by ViewCVS on svn.apache.org: when a CGI script gives a "Status: 304" response the brigade contains a CGI bucket then the EOS, so

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Monday, November 22, 2004 5:30 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestion: Make sure someone can compress any response they want via config but then make sure to NOT recommend doing certain things and let them swim at their own risk. No lifeguard on duty. +1. -- justin

Re: svn commit: r106229 - /httpd/site/branches/css-test

2004-11-22 Thread André Malo
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: pquerna Date: Mon Nov 22 14:55:35 2004 New Revision: 106229 Added: httpd/site/branches/css-test/ - copied from r106228, httpd/site/trunk/ Log: create a copy of the trunk to test out a CSS based website. FWIW: I'd really like something based

Re: svn commit: r106229 - /httpd/site/branches/css-test

2004-11-22 Thread Paul Querna
André Malo wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: pquerna Date: Mon Nov 22 14:55:35 2004 New Revision: 106229 Added: httpd/site/branches/css-test/ - copied from r106228, httpd/site/trunk/ Log: create a copy of the trunk to test out a CSS based website. FWIW: I'd really like something

moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-22 Thread André Malo
Currently the docs build tools are misplaced under infrastructure. I'd like to have them moved from /infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/ to /httpd/docs-build/trunk (or the like) What do you think? nd -- Umfassendes Werk (auch fuer Umsteiger vom Apache 1.3)

Re: moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:25 AM +0100 André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently the docs build tools are misplaced under infrastructure. I'd like to have them moved from /infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/ to /httpd/docs-build/trunk (or the like) What do you think? +1.

Re: moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-22 Thread André Malo
* Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently the docs build tools are misplaced under infrastructure. I'd like to have them moved from /infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/ to /httpd/docs-build/trunk (or the like) What do you think? +1. If you don't

Possible leak in core_output_filter()

2004-11-22 Thread Ronald Park
Hi All, I'm investigating a difficult to diagnose problem and I came across the following code in core_output_filter(): 4152 nvec = 0; 4153 nbytes = 0; 4154 temp = APR_BRIGADE_FIRST(temp_brig); 4155

Re: Whitespace strip filter for httpd v2.1

2004-11-22 Thread Ian Holsman
Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Graham Leggett wrote: I have attached a small filter module that strips leading whitespace from text files. This would typically be used to remove the indenting whitespace found inside HTML files, resulting in a significant reduction in network traffic

Re: moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-22 Thread Hiroaki KAWAI
Currently the docs build tools are misplaced under infrastructure. I'd like to have them moved from /infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/ to /httpd/docs-build/trunk (or the like) What do you think? +1 from me. ---Hiroaki Kawai

Re: svn commit: r106229 - /httpd/site/branches/css-test

2004-11-22 Thread Yoshiki Hayashi
Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Author: pquerna Date: Mon Nov 22 14:55:35 2004 New Revision: 106229 Added: httpd/site/branches/css-test/ - copied from r106228, httpd/site/trunk/ Log: create a copy of the trunk to test out a CSS based website. FWIW: I'd really like something

Re: moving docs build tools to httpd

2004-11-22 Thread Yoshiki Hayashi
André Malo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently the docs build tools are misplaced under infrastructure. I'd like to have them moved from /infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/httpd-docs-build/ to /httpd/docs-build/trunk (or the like) What do you think? +1. If you don't have the

Re: Bug #31228

2004-11-22 Thread Garrett Rooney
Geoffrey Young wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Friday, September 17, 2004 1:07 PM -0400 Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please take a look at bug 31228 in bugzilla? It's just adding a new response code (226) which is defined in rfc3229. I'm

Re: Possible leak in core_output_filter()

2004-11-22 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Ronald Park wrote: I'm investigating a difficult to diagnose problem and I came across the following code in core_output_filter(): Yuck. I HATE the core_output_filter. I probably know that code as well as anybody, and yet every time I look at it, it makes my brain hurt

Re: [PATCH] another mod_deflate vs 304 response case

2004-11-22 Thread Roy T. Fielding
Quoting William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, but why the next three lines? Why would Content-Encoding: gzip *ever* be set on a 304? Because Content-* header fields in a 304 response describe what the response entity would contain if it were a 200 response. Therefore, the header field