Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Andre Schild
People will move Apache 1.x to this platform because there is virtually NO migration cost (i.e. recoding modules etc) and they get a performance boost and while replacing an aging infrastructure. 12 million user on the move - make it easy for them, buy a cheap AMD Opteron and optimize and improve

RE: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Peter J. Cranstone
: consider reopening 1.3 People will move Apache 1.x to this platform because there is virtually NO migration cost (i.e. recoding modules etc) and they get a performance boost and while replacing an aging infrastructure. 12 million user on the move - make it easy for them, buy a cheap AMD Opteron

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:01:46AM -0700, Peter J. Cranstone wrote: Oh yes - forgot about v6... that's a must have for Apache. Is it available for 1.x? If not that would be the first feature to add. The KAME project has IPv6 patches for 1.3.* at ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/misc/ they

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Stoddard
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:01:46AM -0700, Peter J. Cranstone wrote: Oh yes - forgot about v6... that's a must have for Apache. Is it available for 1.x? If not that would be the first feature to add. The KAME project has IPv6 patches for 1.3.* at

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source compatability (to the extent possible) with Apache 1.3 modules would probably see rapid uptake. I can't

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Glenn
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:31:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source compatability (to the extent possible) with Apache 1.3 modules would probably see

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
Glenn wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:31:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source compatability (to the extent possible) with Apache 1.3 modules would

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 17, 2003, at 1:31 PM, Bill Stoddard wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:01:46AM -0700, Peter J. Cranstone wrote: Oh yes - forgot about v6... that's a must have for Apache. Is it available for 1.x? If not that would be the first feature to add. The KAME project has

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jim Jagielski wrote: Glenn wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:31:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source compatability (to

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Bill Stoddard
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64 bit support) with all the Windows specific code stripped out and source compatability (to the extent possible) with Apache 1.3 modules would probably see rapid

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 17, 2003, at 2:22 PM, Bill Stoddard wrote: In this economic environment (and perhaps this will turn out to be generally true from now on), companies are not making investments in IT unless they can get a proven and almost immediate return on that investment. Making the jump to Apache 2.0

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Nov 17, 2003, at 2:22 PM, Bill Stoddard wrote: In this economic environment (and perhaps this will turn out to be generally true from now on), companies are not making investments in IT unless they can get a proven and almost immediate return

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Andr Malo
* Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone working in a company like that, I can tell you definitively that this is not true. At least not here at the biggest web company in the world. *shrug* Big or not, if it's the only one, it can develop the stuff it needs itself. I

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 17, 2003, at 3:17 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: As someone working in a company like that, I can tell you definitively that this is not true. At least not here at the biggest web company in the world. -Rasmus Well, I can certainly say that with respect to many, many of the clients I've

Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Graham Leggett
Jim Jagielski wrote: Look at the impact of not having 2.0 modules severely limited the acceptance of 2.0. Not having 1.4 modules will most certainly do the same*. If 1.4 == 1.3, binary-wise, then it's a non-issue; if not, it's a *major* issue. * Yes, part of the delay was due to porting, which

RE: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3

2003-11-17 Thread Peter J. Cranstone
: Jim Jagielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antw: RE: consider reopening 1.3 Glenn wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:31:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: Apache 1.4, an APR'ized version of Apache 1.3 (to pick up IPV6 and 64