Re: Bandwidth control

2001-08-31 Thread Günter Knauf

 Alex Stewart wrote:

 I've already got a basic model for limit calculations working, and have
 a good idea how to go about most of the rest of it, I think, but
 suggestions are welcome..

 An output filter in Apache v2.0 would be ideal for this.

 However I would question why you would want to do bandwidth limiting in
 Apache when they are so many options for doing this on the network
 itself.
that's only true for Unix, but for other platforms as NetWare or Win32 we have nothing 
(as far as I know).

 One thing that would be quite cool is bandwidth control on a per user
 basis.

and per directory too...

Guenter.




RE: Bandwidth control

2001-08-31 Thread Charles Randall

As you point out, that level of granularity isn't available with general
purpose traffic shaping tools.

You may want to look at the Zeus server to understand the features that were
product-worthy as one example. It appears that they've only implemented this
at the virtual server level.

As you're probably aware, thttpd also provides flexible bandwidth
throttling,

http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/thttpd_man.html#THROTTLING

Charles

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Charles Randall wrote:
 Often times, this can be done easier at the OS level. What OS are you
using?

Linux, and I am aware of various kernel-level controls for traffic 
shaping, etc, however if you can tell me how to enforce different 
bandwidth limits for different name-based vhosts, different directories, 
etc, then I'm all ears, but I suspect I can also give you pretty good 
reasons why even if such decisions could somehow be done at the OS 
level, they really shouldn't be.

-alex



RE: Bandwidth control

2001-08-31 Thread Ian Holsman

On Fri, 2001-08-31 at 13:40, Jason Burns/DHD wrote:
 
 Once again, Danni's Hard Drive has implemented these features in apache
 1.3.x.
 I sent in a patch to 1.3.20 but nobody has appeared to be interested in it.
 I feel like this is the SGI 10x patch deal all over again.  Would anyone
 care
 to look at the patch if I sent it in again?
 
hi Jason.
the apache group at the moment isn't really interested in
adding new features to the 1.3.X server.
there concentrating on getting the 2.0 release out.

I don't have commit access to the apache tree, but I assure you they do
look at the patches and sometimes they might even implement them ;-)

(do you have a bandwith module for 2.0.X ???)
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 As you point out, that level of granularity isn't available with general
 purpose traffic shaping tools.
 
 You may want to look at the Zeus server to understand the features that
 were
 product-worthy as one example. It appears that they've only implemented
 this
 at the virtual server level.
 
 As you're probably aware, thttpd also provides flexible bandwidth
 throttling,
 
 http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/thttpd_man.html#THROTTLING
 
 Charles
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Bandwidth control
 
 
 Charles Randall wrote:
  Often times, this can be done easier at the OS level. What OS are you
 using?
 
 Linux, and I am aware of various kernel-level controls for traffic
 shaping, etc, however if you can tell me how to enforce different
 bandwidth limits for different name-based vhosts, different directories,
 etc, then I'm all ears, but I suspect I can also give you pretty good
 reasons why even if such decisions could somehow be done at the OS
 level, they really shouldn't be.
 
 -alex
 
 
 
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Re: Bandwidth control

2001-08-30 Thread Graham Leggett

Alex Stewart wrote:

 I've already got a basic model for limit calculations working, and have
 a good idea how to go about most of the rest of it, I think, but
 suggestions are welcome..

An output filter in Apache v2.0 would be ideal for this.

However I would question why you would want to do bandwidth limiting in
Apache when they are so many options for doing this on the network
itself.

One thing that would be quite cool is bandwidth control on a per user
basis.

Regards,
Graham
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