Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:47:13PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
credit where it is deserved. I do *not* think we owe the user
community a project plan and schedule of deliverables.
I think we owe it to the other developers to have a project
plan and a
Jim Jagielski wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:47:13PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
credit where it is deserved. I do *not* think we owe the user
community a project plan and schedule of deliverables.
I think we owe it to the other developers to have a
Brian Pane wrote:
Thus I view the
finalization of the APIs and design changes (based on what
we've communicated in STATUS) as the most important next step,
followed by getting the 2.0 GA released.
I agree. Modules won't be ported en mass to 2.0 until module writers
and maintainers have
I've set on this for a week and decided I wasn't happy with it being the last word on
the
topic.
Jeff Stuart wrote:
Roy, however, I do think that there is an implied responsibility for
apache since so much of the Internet USES it.
Gaining market share has never been one of our goals.
Bill Stoddard wrote:
And FWIW, I personally feel some responsbility to the Apache
user community.
So do I, of a sort; I feel gratitude for the feedback and
suggestions toward improvement of the package. For me, though,
it does *not* extend to a feeling of commitment to deliver
anything
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:47:13PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
credit where it is deserved. I do *not* think we owe the user
community a project plan and schedule of deliverables.
I think we owe it to the other developers to have a project
plan and a schedule of deliverables. --
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:47:13PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size
wrote:
credit where it is deserved. I do *not* think we owe the user
community a project plan and schedule of deliverables.
I think we owe it to the other developers to have a project
plan and a schedule of deliverables.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
I think we owe it to the other developers to have a project
plan and a schedule of deliverables. -- justin
That's an entirely different thing than owing it to the
user community.
--
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Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author,
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:26:58AM -0800, Ryan Bloom wrote:
I do that at my day job. I do the Open Source work to get away from the
annoying parts of programming that my day job delivers. Please don't
force that stuff on me during my relaxing time.
If you are interested in making a release,
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:26:58AM -0800, Ryan Bloom wrote:
I do that at my day job. I do the Open Source work to get away from
the
annoying parts of programming that my day job delivers. Please
don't
force that stuff on me during my relaxing time.
If you are interested in making a
happen without
leadership).
Peter J. Cranstone
-Original Message-
From: Roy T. Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: whither are we going?
As far as having no responsibility to the people/companies
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:12:27PM -0500, Jeff Stuart wrote:
face to everyone who uses/depends on Apache. Of all the programs I
use/depends (Apache, PHP, Perl, Mysql, mod_perl, Gnome) only here have I
seen that attitude that the USERS of a program do not matter.
What I think Roy means is
If I were bringing up musicblvd.com on httpd 2.0 instead of httpd 0.6.4
or whatever I used, I would be worried a little if httpd 1.0 had taken 5
years to actually come out instead of less than a year. The core for
httpd 1.0 was done by 0.8 IIRC.
Roy's right, literally, but at some point it
Jeff Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[text omitted]
We just had another beta (2.0.32). We have a status file that
indicates what we feel needs to be fixed before GA. We are actively
pursuing bug reports from people who downloaded 2.0.32 and encountered
problems. We are doing what it takes
On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 12:29, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:12:27PM -0500, Jeff Stuart wrote:
face to everyone who uses/depends on Apache. Of all the programs I
use/depends (Apache, PHP, Perl, Mysql, mod_perl, Gnome) only here have I
seen that attitude that the USERS
On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 12:29, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:12:27PM -0500, Jeff Stuart wrote:
face to everyone who uses/depends on Apache. Of all the programs
I
use/depends (Apache, PHP, Perl, Mysql, mod_perl, Gnome) only here
have
I
seen that attitude that the
Jeff Stuart wrote:
Roy, however, I do think that there is an implied responsibility for
apache since so much of the Internet USES it.
Gaining market share has never been one of our goals. Producing
quality software has. That so many people have decided to benefit
from our work does not,
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 11:26, Dale Ghent wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote:
| If you read the statement in context, it shouldn't be alarming. It was
| in response to a statement that we shouldn't be re-writing any code,
| because it destabilizes the current code. I patently
As far as having no responsibility to the people/companies that USE
Apache, I put forth this argument. When a company bases it's business
or a person bases their career on a program, in MY OPINION, there then
springs into a being an implied responsibility on the development team
to support
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
... It is completely insane to think that a volunteer group
of developers is going to be responsible to all 60 million or so users just
because they happen to like the free product.
hear hear
If you aren't contributing, you aren't part of the Apache community.
Jeff Stuart wrote:
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 11:26, Dale Ghent wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote:
| If you read the statement in context, it shouldn't be alarming. It was
| in response to a statement that we shouldn't be re-writing any code,
| because it destabilizes the current code.
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