Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
I currently hate Maven with a grand passion. But, I'm open minded and am willing to be educated as to why people like it. I will make the same offer I made before: Three requirements: #1 Create a maven build system for iBATIS that achieves the exact same output, which includes: - one click

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
Thanks for sharing your passions. My thoughts are below... #1... A. one click has never been a problem for maven. There seems to be a lot of insinuation that maven requires a lot of config files. I'm not sure where you are getting this. The only thing that we might need to do is break out the

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
I wasn't implying that Maven COULDN'T do anything I was just laying out what I would want to see from a maven build. So, if you are saying we can't have an assembly config then gimme a break. What I mean is that if I can't check it out and build without having to perform some developer

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
A serial number generator for builds does not easily exist for maven. We had talked about using the svn repo revision number. SVN repo number would be great. It's a little long because it's Apache's global repos, but it would be more useful than the somewhat meaningless build number we have

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
Comments are mixed in: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't implying that Maven COULDN'T do anything I was just laying out what I would want to see from a maven build. So, if you are saying we can't have an assembly config then gimme a

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
As a follow up to all who are reading this thread. Let me be very clear. Any aggressive comments are made in jest and fun. We are all good friends here and enjoy the big brother banter. Please don't take this as an opportunity to truly dig on any one of us. Muchos Gracias, Brandon On Wed, May 7,

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Larry Meadors
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Brandon Goodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a follow up to all who are reading this thread. Let me be very clear. Any aggressive comments are made in jest and fun. We are all good friends here and enjoy the big brother banter. Please don't take this as an

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
Reality check: Signs, MD5, and Uploads to Apache dist (with no additional dependencies or configuration) - how's this going to work, via telepathy? :-D Trusted hosts (or same host) and a continuous integration server with a manually invoked distribution target. CI server runs as the deploy

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
The other thing that can be nice about maven is for ibatis extension development. We are making iB3 more accessible. This means that we are likely to have more people wanting to write against ibatis. Maven makes it nicer to create dependencies on nightly builds/snapshots. Brandon On Wed, May 7,

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
Sorry for the spotty emails. just stuff coming to my mind. Another point would be the whole deploying to the maven repository can be made easier. We want to be able to provide users with source artifacts and jar artifacts all properly packaged with maven. I can do this manually. But, i'd rather

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
Geez I'm really sorry to fire off yet another... Yet another point. Ant integration has become quite nice with maven. So, it is possible we can augment maven insufficiencies with Ant. Shutting up, Brandon On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Brandon Goodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Larry Meadors
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brandon Goodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shutting up, Yeah, we'll keep dreaming. ;-) Larry

[VOTE] Use Maven 2 as iBATIS 3 build system.

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
This is a vote to switch our build system from Ant to Maven 2. Binding votes will be accepted from committers of the iBATIS for Java project. All other votes will be taken as opinion, but non-binding. This does not imply that we will use Maven for our website, but we could indeed consider that

Re: [VOTE] Use Maven 2 as iBATIS 3 build system.

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
My Vote: [0] Doesn't matter. As long as it builds as well as it currently does. Clinton On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a vote to switch our build system from Ant to Maven 2. Binding votes will be accepted from committers of the iBATIS for

Re: [VOTE] Use Maven 2 as iBATIS 3 build system.

2008-05-07 Thread Larry Meadors
If those are the only options, I'll vote +1. If it were free form, I'd vote +0.5 I think they both suck, but maven *might* suck less.? ;-) Larry On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Vote: [0] Doesn't matter. As long as it builds as well as it

Re: [VOTE] Use Maven 2 as iBATIS 3 build system.

2008-05-07 Thread Brandon Goodin
Brandon Goodin's vote: +1 On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Vote: [0] Doesn't matter. As long as it builds as well as it currently does. Clinton On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a vote to

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Clinton Begin
NM, found it! Yes, to all 3. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know off hand if Maven can easily support FindBugs, Checkstyle and/or Jalopy? Cheers, Clinton On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Larry Meadors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahah,

Re: Code Hierarchy and Build Process

2008-05-07 Thread Nathan Maves
+1 from me On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NM, found it! Yes, to all 3. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know off hand if Maven can easily support FindBugs, Checkstyle and/or Jalopy? Cheers,

Re: [VOTE] Use Maven 2 as iBATIS 3 build system.

2008-05-07 Thread Jeff Butler
+0 - doesn't really matter to me. I don't know Maven yet - maybe this will be a good opportunity for me to learn it. Jeff Butler On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Clinton Begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a vote to switch our build system from Ant to Maven 2. Binding votes will be