Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-09-02 Thread WorldLabel.com
*Oracle veep backs software revolution at historic anniversary OpenOffice.org global conference* OpenOffice.org, the Open Document Format and their customers are equally important, Michael Bemmer, the Vice President and General Manager of Oracle Office, said at the annual international

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-09-02 Thread Mirek M.
Just for those wanting clarification on the Oracle vs. Google deal, here's an article that I think explains the situation very clearly: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 22:19) Another interesting news is that OpenSolaris won't get the code from Oracle in real time. As the licence allows, Oracle will release a binary with the new development being closed and releasing the code on CDDL months latter. That's not desired and

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. All code contributed to the project is shared with Oracle. Oracle owns it and

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/26/2010 09:44 PM, Mirek M. wrote: But it's a good starting point for a new branch. No. It's not. The changes introduced in that one are introduced by Microsoft affiliates with a bad history on standards and licensing. There is a good reason it was forked. Personally, I would like to

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
Cor Nouws, 29-08-2010 05:53: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. Sun opened Solaris development, Oracle is

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (29-08-10 18:37) Cor Nouws, 29-08-2010 05:53: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. Sun

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-27 Thread WorldLabel.com
I'm not saying Oracle didn't invest time into OOo. I'm just saying I don't want to support a company like Oracle or MS (MS also puts a lot of time and money into its suite, much more than Oracle)... Oracle does still invest in OOo, they sponsoring OOoCon. And we really do not know yet what

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Varun, everyone, 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Oracle's open-source Java in Google's open-source Android OS. How does that not undermine Oracle's relationship to

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittalvarunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of a ridiculous patent suit concerning, surprisingly, its open-source Java. And that

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi again, 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Hi, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittalvarunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of a ridiculous patent suit

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
2010/8/26 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com Hi again, 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Hi, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittalvarunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Did you ever think about time and money that Sun Microsystems did and now Oracle does invest in OpenOffice.org, that you can just download for free, several new versions a year, as much as you want? There is an issue with the

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Varun, everyone, 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Oracle's open-source Java in Google's

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 16:47) 2010/8/26 Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittalvarunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of a

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Alexandro, everyone, 2010/8/26 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Varun, everyone, 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Oracle filed a patent

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Cor, 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 16:47) 2010/8/26 Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittalvarunmitta...@gmail.com Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-26 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: Well Google didn't use open source to start with. When Java was liberated it created an OpenJDK platform. Danger (the original company that created android) forked J2ME which is NOT free. So they had that risk from

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-25 Thread Cor Nouws
luiz wrote (25-08-10 01:01) Now What?? http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 Nothing news - despite the tag IDG news service I just see old news and old speculations ;-) (And of course insecure reporting.) But it is a good attempt to play with emotions. Cor

[marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-24 Thread luiz
Now What?? http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 Luiz Oliveira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
LOL this is true OOo tradition, some bad press is leaked right before the OOoCon. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM, luiz luizh...@openoffice.org wrote: Now What?? http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 Luiz Oliveira

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-24 Thread Varun Mittal
Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Any Open Source project is dependent on its community and not on a company for its survival. Secondly market has enough MS hater corporates who would like to support anything which hurt MS on its one of the most profitable products. On a lighter