Hi *,
WorldLabel.com wrote (26-05-11 13:50)
We will protect past investments by building on the solid achievements
of our first decade
I can not help reading that line and thinking the fact is, the only way
we all can protect past investments and build on them is to forge a
way for both
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
My point is not that having a good discussion about OpenOffice.org is out
of the question
here, on OOo lists. I find that fine, and the location quite proper. But
such a discussion
ought to be-must be-about OOo, its NLCs, its contributors, its goals, its
options. Such
We will protect past investments by building on the solid achievements of
our first decade
I can not help reading that line and thinking the fact is, the only way we
all can protect past investments and build on them is to forge a way for
both communities to come together!
On Thu, May 26, 2011
El 25/05/11 17:42, Sophie Gautier escribió:
Alexandro, please, fact and realty, you understand that after all what
has been written and said about the Spanish speaking community we
can't trust you any more or only backup your says. We know that you
are not representative of it and the we you
Hello,
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 09:50:27 -0300,
Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar a écrit :
El 25/05/11 17:42, Sophie Gautier escribió:
Alexandro, please, fact and realty, you understand that after all
what has been written and said about the Spanish speaking community
we can't trust
El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
But it's perhaps not very important at that stage.
+1
I'm sorry by mistake the focus. Is better build the new idea for OOo
comunity. :-)
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Prof. Román H.
On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar wrote:
El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
But it's perhaps not very important at that stage.
+1
I'm sorry by mistake the focus. Is better build the new idea for OOo
comunity. :-)
How about gaining agreement on
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 11:18:48 -0300,
Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar a écrit :
El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
But it's perhaps not very important at that stage.
+1
I'm sorry by mistake the focus. Is better build the new idea for OOo
comunity. :-)
That wasn't
Hello Ian,
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 15:32:22 +0100,
Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar
wrote:
El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz escribió:
But it's perhaps not very important at that stage.
+1
I'm sorry by mistake
On 26 May 2011 17:39, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello Ian,
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 15:32:22 +0100,
Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H. Gelbort ro...@piensalibre.com.ar
wrote:
El 26/05/11 13:09, Charles-H. Schulz
Ian Lynch wrote (26-05-11 16:52)
1. TDF governance is adopted by all - in that case OOo community Council
etc is absorbed into TDF
2. OOo CC is adopted by all - in that case TDF is absorbed into OOo CC
3. A new organisation is created with a new constitution and governance
for both communities
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 15:52:35 +0100,
Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 26 May 2011 17:39, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello Ian,
Le Thu, 26 May 2011 15:32:22 +0100,
Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 26 May 2011 15:18, Roman H.
1. TDF governance is adopted by all - in that case OOo community
Council etc is absorbed into TDF
2. OOo CC is adopted by all - in that case TDF is absorbed into OOo CC
3. A new organisation is created with a new constitution and
governance for both communities
4. Either governance
Hi Roman, Alexandro, *
you may say you're the only people involved in OOo from the Spanish
Community, but you know perfectly that's not true. Sophie is right, you
don't represent the Spanish Community at all. But here's not the place
for such a discussion.
Best Greetings,
Ramon
Roman H.
Thanks, Florian for the long message :-)
But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word)
presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this
is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a suitable forum for what is likely
to be a protracted and
Hi Louis,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33:
Thanks, Florian for the long message :-)
But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word)
presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this
is OOo-land, has to do with simply having
Hi Florian, all,
On 25/05/2011 17:00, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Louis,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33:
Thanks, Florian for the long message :-)
But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a
word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling ones.
And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for
community reasons but also because a lot is at stake beyond our narrow
Guys,
I am sure that a discussion in neutral territory can still mean a very
transparent and productive conversation too.
Louis,
Which forum did you have in mind?
Gian
On Wed 25/05/11 16:55 , Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com sent:
There are many good reasons to have any discussion
Hi,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 16.55:
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling ones.
And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for
community reasons but
Hello everyone,
2011/5/25 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
Hi,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 16.55:
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling
ones.
And I also
Hello Louis,
As a member of the community, I'm trying to understand the situation here,
especially the situation from your point of view.
The Document Foundation has made it clear that if there are no
negotiations with OpenOffice.org, they will continue to develop and
release the codebase under
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Hi,
Em 25-05-2011 12:08, Gianvittorio escreveu:
Guys,
I am sure that a discussion in neutral territory can still mean a very
transparent and productive conversation too.
Louis,
Which forum did you have in mind?
As Florian said, I don't
Il 25/05/2011 16:55, Louis Suarez-Potts ha scritto:
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling
ones.
And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for
community
Davide Dozza wrote:
Time is come. As still member of OOo community I *strongly* believe that
such discussion should be made in public.
Otherwise we (the community) still fall into our narrow concers as it
was during last ten years.
It is to bad that the Community does not have anything to do
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Davide Dozza dav...@flossconsulting.itwrote:
Il 25/05/2011 16:55, Louis Suarez-Potts ha scritto:
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling
ones.
And I
Hi Alexandro,
2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org:
OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers
coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this
community to keep working.
This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Alexandro,
2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org:
OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers
coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this
El 25/05/11 16:58, Volker Merschmann escribió:
This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core developer
which has started to work on the project in the last six months?
Volker... the core developers aren't the only VIP in the project!
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[resent and amended with the good address, my apologize to the moderators]
Hi Alexandro,
On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com
mailto:merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alexandro,
2011/5/25 Alexandro
У сре, 25. 05 2011. у 15:02 -0500, Alexandro Colorado пише:
We have added some new people in the past few weeks. Also chatted with other
developers that I hang out on IRC.
That is great, I am looking forward for patches and code for all new
features! As user and integrator I do not care where
Hi Florian,
Did TDF change its mission, from the evolution of the OpenOffice.org
Community[1] to the evolution of the LibreOffice Community[2]?
[1] http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/
Our Mission
Our mission is to facilitate the evolution of the OpenOffice.org
Community into a new
Hi Alexandro,
On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com
mailto:merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alexandro,
2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org
mailto:j...@openoffice.org:
OOo is
For what it's worth, I think it is good that this discussion is being
held here. What I see happening is that perspectives and ideas and
difficulties are being openly discussed in a 'public' forum that is
open to all who wish to be involved... and that this 'concept of
openness' is what got me,
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