Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-11 Thread Brett Porter
On 11/08/2008, at 3:23 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: So it looks like the general consensus is: - Cut a 2.1.x branch from a 2.0.x tag (I saw 2.0.9 and 2.0.10 float by as options) - Call trunk 3.0-SNAPSHOT We'll just bugfix 2.0.x. The 2.1.x branch will be the mediator toward 3.0, and given

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Abel MuiƱo
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:16 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable) On 08/08/2008, at 12:24 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: Is TRUNK really 3.0? Hmm.. Maybe not. I think it is only

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Milos Kleint
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Mauro Talevi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Milos Kleint wrote: please, please, let's not add anything else to trunk (2.1) and stabilize it. I've been waiting for a stable embeddable version for 2 years and with the number of work (complete rewrites of everything)

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
I think having the intermediary bridge is a good idea, and I would be comfortable finding the last stable version of trunk that works with Mevenide and then release that and then leave that as a stable branch for you to work off. One of the problems is that your code seems not to be very

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Milos Kleint
Jason, The issues I'm finding (or my userbase actually) are not with mevenide integration. It's also not something I could test on my side. It's in 99% of cases incompatibilities with 2.0.x. And it's not a reoccuring pattern, no trunk-to-trunk regressions. So no test could save me from it

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 10-Aug-08, at 9:05 PM, Milos Kleint wrote: Jason, The issues I'm finding (or my userbase actually) are not with mevenide integration. It's also not something I could test on my side. It's in 99% of cases incompatibilities with 2.0.x. And it's not a reoccuring pattern, no trunk-to-trunk

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-10 Thread Jason van Zyl
So it looks like the general consensus is: - Cut a 2.1.x branch from a 2.0.x tag (I saw 2.0.9 and 2.0.10 float by as options) - Call trunk 3.0-SNAPSHOT We'll just bugfix 2.0.x. The 2.1.x branch will be the mediator toward 3.0, and given the mediator exists we're a lot safer doing a 3.0-

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-09 Thread Mauro Talevi
Brian E. Fox wrote: I have been saying that the trunk is too changed for 2.1 for a while also. I think having it as 3.0 is probably the logical thing to do and then we can really buckle 2.0 down as it should be and start making these bigger destabilizing fixes/small features to a 2.1 branch cut

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-09 Thread Mauro Talevi
Milos Kleint wrote: please, please, let's not add anything else to trunk (2.1) and stabilize it. I've been waiting for a stable embeddable version for 2 years and with the number of work (complete rewrites of everything) in the branches, a stable maven.next looks years ahead again. Not having

RE: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-08 Thread Brian E. Fox
2.0.10 gets worked out real soon, perhaps we even go back to 2.0.9 and branch there (ie 2.0.10 becomes 2.1.0) -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:16 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-08 Thread Milos Kleint
- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:16 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable) On 08/08/2008, at 12:24 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: Is TRUNK really 3.0? Hmm.. Maybe not. I think

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-08 Thread Milos Kleint
) -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:16 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable) On 08/08/2008, at 12:24 PM, Paul Benedict

Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can call it whatever version. At this point I don't think it much matters. I'd like to see the current trunk moved to a code-named branch, so that we can make incremental improvements in 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc. In the

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
If you are actually helping to develop the core code then I'm sure that's definitely one of the approaches we could take. On 7-Aug-08, at 10:18 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can call it whatever version. At this point I

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread John Casey
Wendy Smoak wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can call it whatever version. At this point I don't think it much matters. I'd like to see the current trunk moved to a code-named branch, so that we can make incremental improvements in 2.1, 2.2,

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
This is exactly why I'd like to put the current trunk code on the path of being released as 3.0. We have tons of things that could reasonably be improved in 2.0.x, but aren't really appropriate in such a minor release as 2.0.11. We could move toward larger feature introductions like import

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Jesse McConnell
not a bad idea john... the major concern I would have is that 3.0 in this case is already the basis of all the embedder work (ie IDE development) while the 2.0.x-2.1 releases would in essence have to be forward compatible with 3.0 because of that...the build in the IDE _ought_ to work the same as

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/08/2008, at 5:45 AM, John Casey wrote: This is exactly why I'd like to put the current trunk code on the path of being released as 3.0. We have tons of things that could reasonably be improved in 2.0.x, but aren't really appropriate in such a minor release as 2.0.11. We could move

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Paul Benedict
Is TRUNK really 3.0? Hmm.. Maybe not. I think it is only appropriate to bump the first number when you make a major architecture change. It was totally appropriate between 1.x and 2.x because the code bases are absolutely incompatible. Why I should believe the same for TRUNK now? It still looks

Re: Versioning Maven (was: Re: Maven 2.1 development IRC roundtable)

2008-08-07 Thread Brett Porter
On 08/08/2008, at 12:24 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: Is TRUNK really 3.0? Hmm.. Maybe not. I think it is only appropriate to bump the first number when you make a major architecture change. It was totally appropriate between 1.x and 2.x because the code bases are absolutely incompatible. Why I