Re: [VOTE] maven-enforcer-plugin:1.0-alpha-2

2007-04-11 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/10/07, Brian E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This release fixes just one critical issue: Release Notes - Maven 2.x Enforcer Plugin - Version 1.0-alpha-2 ** Bug * [MENFORCER-1] - plugin fails on jdk 1.5 The deployments are staged here:

Avoiding duplicate packages in different modules

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez
There are a number of packages that are spread in different jars. As best practice and to play well with OSGi the same package shouldn't be in two modules We should copy classes to a new package, make old ones extend them and deprecate to retain compatibility. I filed it as MNG-2943 Let me know

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1

2007-04-11 Thread John Casey
I'll go ahead and roll the beta-1 release, and we can fix the repository problem along with the other 17 issues that are still slated for 2.2-final. Thanks, John On 4/11/07, berndq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian E. Fox schrieb: This is a MUCH bigger problem than we seem to recognize. Who

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1

2007-04-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 10 Apr 07, at 12:19 PM 10 Apr 07, John Casey wrote: #1 gets us back into the realm of trying to decipher whether the behavior of version 2.1 has this as a *feature* or a *bug*. It's along the same lines as MASSEMBLY-194, IMO. I understand the ramifications here: Maven (at times)

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 - lock down of plugin versions

2007-04-11 Thread Geoffrey De Smet
they need to specify versions for all of their plugins in the POM We can't do this in 2.0.x but it needs to be mandatory in 2.1. Good! :) In my experience with spring-richclient most of the problems of an instable build went away the day I locked down all versions. However you could

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1

2007-04-11 Thread John Casey
+1 binding: John C, Stephane, Brian, Jason +1 non-binding: Dan K, Patrick -1 (non-veto): Brett I'll proceed with the release. Thanks, John On 4/6/07, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, This is the third attempt, after fixing: * http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MASSEMBLY-194

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 - lock down of plugin versions

2007-04-11 Thread Arik Kfir
+1 for that! On 4/11/07, Geoffrey De Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they need to specify versions for all of their plugins in the POM We can't do this in 2.0.x but it needs to be mandatory in 2.1. Good! :) In my experience with spring-richclient most of the problems of an instable

RE: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 - lock down of plugin versions

2007-04-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
I think if we just change the plugin resolution so that it doesn't assume RELEASE if no version is set, it should be pretty easy right? IE someone can still put RELEASE as a version if they want to, but we would require something to be set and not just assume it. Or should we abandon RELEASE all

Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread John Casey
Hi everyone, I'd like to make sure we're all on the same page with the plugin auto-version resolution stuff that we've been discussing lately (on the assembly-plugin vote thread, for one thing). I think it's clear that we cannot continue to allow Maven to resolve RELEASE or LATEST meta-versions

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/11/07, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's more complicated than just removing that. Firstly, large numbers of command line plugins will stop working. Secondly, we need to provide a solution for implied plugins (we can set the version in the lifecycle and then let the user

RE: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
Here's how I see it in 2.1: Command Line Invocation: -No change. That is if a version is specified in the POM or Plugin Management, use that. Else, use RELEASE. If a fully qualified plugin name is used in place of the prefix, use that (ie

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Brett Porter
I think it's more complicated than just removing that. Firstly, large numbers of command line plugins will stop working. Secondly, we need to provide a solution for implied plugins (we can set the version in the lifecycle and then let the user give pluginManagement to override it, but I'd

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 Being explicit is good. Jason. On 11 Apr 07, at 12:54 PM 11 Apr 07, John Casey wrote: Hi everyone, I'd like to make sure we're all on the same page with the plugin auto-version resolution stuff that we've been discussing lately (on the assembly-plugin vote thread, for one thing). I

Re: Avoiding duplicate packages in different modules

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez
On 4/11/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unclear as to what you are actually proposing. Does this apply to new JARs, existing JARs. What is it that you're actually going to do and why does this apply to the core of Maven? I'd like to make sure a package is not used in two

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 11 Apr 07, at 1:04 PM 11 Apr 07, Brett Porter wrote: I think it's more complicated than just removing that. Firstly, large numbers of command line plugins will stop working. For anything specified in POM the version needs to be specified. Anything that is useful and required for a

Re: Avoiding duplicate packages in different modules

2007-04-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 11 Apr 07, at 2:24 AM 11 Apr 07, Carlos Sanchez wrote: There are a number of packages that are spread in different jars. As best practice and to play well with OSGi the same package shouldn't be in two modules We should copy classes to a new package, make old ones extend them and deprecate

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread John Casey
Actually, the unwittingly try and build it with 2.1 scenario is a case where it would be nice to have a prereq on maven 2.1 in the POM. I don't think that 2.0.x supports that sort of thing in the prerequisites section, but I imagine the enforcer-plugin would do it. I think we should write

[VOTE] Release maven-stylus-skin 1.0.1

2007-04-11 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hi, I'd like to release maven-stylus-skin 1.0.1. The only existing issue for this skin has been fixed. The fix is needed by the upcoming version of Doxia. Release Notes: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11430styleName=Htmlversion=13133 Tag:

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez
I think every maven release should use a defined set of plugin versions. That would be reproducible and close to what it's happening now. Making the user list all plugins it's gonna be killer for newbies. On 4/11/07, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the unwittingly try and build

Re: Handling versions for our skins

2007-04-11 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Done Dennis Lundberg wrote: Hi I'm preparing to release a new version of maven-stylus-skin. I'd therefor like your opinions on how we should handle versions for our skins. The only real change in maven-stylus-skin is the addition of a couple of missing images. The current version is

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Dan Tran
I have to agree with Carlos, it is a killer for newbies, and it means slow adoption But speaking from my experience, I ended up to specify all plugin versions to reduce ambiguities. -D On 4/11/07, Carlos Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every maven release should use a defined set

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Wayne Fay
Strongly agree with Carlos and Dan. We already have enough troubles on M-U with web proxies and javax.* artifacts not available in Central, we really don't need to add to the troubles by requiring users to specify every single plugin. Wayne On 4/11/07, Dan Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have

Re: Common base directory for staging releases

2007-04-11 Thread Jesse McConnell
makes the tooling easier too, I like it On 4/10/07, Stephane Nicoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. Stéphane On 4/1/07, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted to setup a common base directory for staging releases so that each person doesn't have to change their setting

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Jerome Lacoste
On 4/11/07, John Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the unwittingly try and build it with 2.1 scenario is a case where it would be nice to have a prereq on maven 2.1 in the POM. I don't think that 2.0.x supports that sort of thing in the prerequisites section, but I imagine the

Re: deploy surefire-collab 2.4-SNAPSHOT?

2007-04-11 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Ok maybe there is a tiny problem, not sure who / where it should go but I have a real project setup thusly: parent pom - - ) defines build plugin dependency on maven-surefire-plugin 2.4-SNAPSHOT -) defines dependency on TestNG 5.1 child pom - -) has a build area defined but not explicit

It's time to release maven-idea-plugin

2007-04-11 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Hi It has been almost a year since the last release, which was version 2.0. I'm planning to do a 2.1 release in the near future. Does anyone have any particular issue they need fixed for this release? If you do, now is the time to speak up. Current release notes:

Re: problem with separation of java and resources

2007-04-11 Thread Joerg Hohwiller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm not sure if eclipse supports it, but with IDEA, the package view keep the resources and the java sources together. Great for the IDEA users, but this does NOT help me with eclipse. Can someone point out why it was designed this way? The

Re: problem with separation of java and resources

2007-04-11 Thread Mykel Alvis
Well, filtering of resources would be damned hard if there were a bunch of .java files in the mix, for one (and probably the biggest) reason. On 4/11/07, Joerg Hohwiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm not sure if eclipse supports it, but with

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Barrie Treloar
On 4/12/07, Carlos Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every maven release should use a defined set of plugin versions. That would be reproducible and close to what it's happening now. Making the user list all plugins it's gonna be killer for newbies. If I need a specific version (usual

Re: deploy surefire-collab 2.4-SNAPSHOT?

2007-04-11 Thread Brett Porter
It's a known issue in 2.0.6 - Brett On 12/04/2007, at 7:21 AM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: Ok maybe there is a tiny problem, not sure who / where it should go but I have a real project setup thusly: parent pom - - ) defines build plugin dependency on maven-surefire-plugin 2.4- SNAPSHOT -) defines

Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 - lock down of plugin versions

2007-04-11 Thread Barrie Treloar
On 4/12/07, Brian E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think if we just change the plugin resolution so that it doesn't assume RELEASE if no version is set, it should be pretty easy right? IE someone can still put RELEASE as a version if they want to, but we would require something to be set and

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez
On 4/11/07, Barrie Treloar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/07, Carlos Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every maven release should use a defined set of plugin versions. That would be reproducible and close to what it's happening now. Making the user list all plugins it's gonna be

[jira] Subscription: Outstanding Repository Maintenance: Evangelism

2007-04-11 Thread jira
Issue Subscription Filter: Outstanding Repository Maintenance: Evangelism (41 issues) Subscriber: mavendevlist Key Summary MEV-515 jdbcappender by Danko Mannhaupt not in ibiblio http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-515 MEV-513 Invalid POM: aspectwerkz/aspectwerkz-core

[jira] Subscription: Outstanding Repository Maintenance: Uploads

2007-04-11 Thread jira
Issue Subscription Filter: Outstanding Repository Maintenance: Uploads (30 issues) Subscriber: mavendevlist Key Summary MAVENUPLOAD-1455java exchange connector http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MAVENUPLOAD-1455 MAVENUPLOAD-1471Spring 2.0.4 vs. Hibernate 3.2.3.ga

RE: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
I don't see the connection between javax.* and the plugins? -Original Message- From: Wayne Fay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:10 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1 Strongly agree with Carlos and

RE: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 - lock down of plugin versions

2007-04-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
I never use either to be honest so I'm not actually sure what the difference is. -Original Message- From: Barrie Treloar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:44 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [vote] Attempt 3: Release maven-assembly-plugin 2.2-beta-1 -

RE: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
If I need a specific version (usual to workaround a known issue) then I specify it in the the pom. Otherwise I want the latest. This is the current problem, where builds are done with undetermined versions. (ie the version for dev a might not match dev b) For snapshot builds if I will use

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Wayne Fay
I was merely speaking abstractly about things that seem to lead new Maven users down the wrong path (towards failure rather than success with Maven). I have seen countless emails because someone didn't read the directions and failed to configure their settings.xml with their web proxy settings.

Re: Let's release Archiva

2007-04-11 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/11/07, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I bugged Jesse on irc about the maven-app-* releases that need to be promoted from staging. Those are the last remaining snapshots in the build. Then we'll see how easy it is... some time this weekend, probably. Thanks to Jesse for

Forcing snapshot repositories to be disabled?

2007-04-11 Thread Barrie Treloar
I'm trying to build a codehaus mojo and the codehaus parent poms declare both repositories and pluginRepositories that are snapshots. This is fine when the project I am working on needs the snapshot versions, but it also means that I am pulling in snapshots for everything. Is there a way to

Re: Remove auto-resolution of plugin versions from Maven 2.1

2007-04-11 Thread Franz Allan Valencia See
I Agree. Minimum configuration should be enough for the common use cases. But if your build fails with the minimum configuration, then that's the time you add in other configurations. IMHO, it's just like the dependency mechanism. A typical user would only have to specify the artifacts he / she

deploy surefire-collab 2.4-SNAPSHOT?

2007-04-11 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
I still have some pending local changes that I've started for future proofing the testng / surefire api points but what I have checked in should be both backwards compatible and work with the latest 5.5 version of TestNG. I don't know if there's been any activity on the mainline trunk version

Re: deploy surefire-collab 2.4-SNAPSHOT?

2007-04-11 Thread Brett Porter
are you expecting it to be problematic? I think including it in the current set is fine. - Brett On 12/04/2007, at 2:19 AM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: Ok sounds good, thanks Brett. I have some local changes stored up that will hopefully make things forwards compatible with TestNG 5.6 - whatever,