Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Jörg Schaible
Brett Porter wrote: On 28/06/2011, at 7:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: The tomcat wars are NOT provided. The idea is to grab them from the repositories, copy them to the local repo, and have the tomcat plugin 'collect them all.' I didn't know that maven already had the concept of

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stan Devitt
Stan Devitt, Platform Group - Original Message - From: Jörg Schaible [mailto:joerg.schai...@scalaris.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 02:40 AM To: dev@maven.apache.org dev@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: scopeperi/scope Brett Porter wrote: On 28/06/2011, at 7:46 AM, Benson Margulies

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stan Devitt
Apologies: I hit the wrong button. I am enjoying this thread. My main observation so far is that if you need one custom scope (and I think you do) then you will need more. Provided is not enough. The custom scope seems to let you get at lists of dependencies that have a special purpose.

Re: [VOTE] ReleaseMaven Release plugin version 2.2

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 LieGrue, strub --- On Mon, 6/27/11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com Subject: [VOTE] ReleaseMaven Release plugin version 2.2 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 9:23 AM

Re: [VOTE] ReleaseMaven Release plugin version 2.2

2011-06-28 Thread Tony Chemit
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:23:27 +0100 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (non-binding) Thanks, Tony Hi, We solved 12 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11144styleName=Htmlversion=16778 Staging repo:

Re: core integration tests trunk

2011-06-28 Thread Lukas Theussl
I get the same failure on my Mac. I recommend to configure a jenkins job as multi-configuration type, see eg https://builds.apache.org/job/doxia/ (Just choose multi-configuration-project instead of maven2/3 project when adding the job) HTH, -Lukas Benson Margulies wrote: I just added

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
I was pretty sleepy last night. My residual disagreement is that 'provided' doesn't just mean 'copy to local repo'. It means 'copy to local repo and put in test classpath.' Yes, I now get it, an appropriate packaging avoids any classpath. The word 'provided' is used because it's 'provided' by the

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 28 June 2011 11:31, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I was pretty sleepy last night. My residual disagreement is that 'provided' doesn't just mean 'copy to local repo'. It means 'copy to local repo and put in test classpath.' Yes, I now get it, an appropriate packaging avoids

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 28 June 2011 11:38, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 June 2011 11:31, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I was pretty sleepy last night. My residual disagreement is that 'provided' doesn't just mean 'copy to local repo'. It means 'copy to local repo

maven-war-plugin problem - jar file unexpectedly trimmed (truncated)

2011-06-28 Thread Stéphan BEUZE
Hi all, Sorry for annonying you, but i have searched my problem in the wiki, in the documentation, on the web, post it in various forums, in user-list and no one seems to be able to answer me. Here it is : I have a web-app configured with a pom.xml. This web-app relies on another maven

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
The critical scope to add for me is something along the lines of provides or supplies or embeds-equivalent Why is this a scope and not just more configuration inside the dependency/ element? dependency !-- gav -- alsoProvides alsoProvide !-- gav --

Re: maven-war-plugin problem - jar file unexpectedly trimmed (truncated)

2011-06-28 Thread Stéphan BEUZE
I finally find a solution. In the web-app/web-inf/lib directory, there was a jar file who was sharing the same name with the dependent jar file. For a reason i don't understand, maven-war-plugin used to take this old jar file rather than the freshly one i installed in my local repository.

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 28 June 2011 14:01, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: The critical scope to add for me is something along the lines of provides or supplies or embeds-equivalent Why is this a scope and not just more configuration inside the dependency/ element?    dependency      !-- gav --

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Because why should I have to always state that I'm using org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j and that it provides log4j:log4j much better that the pom for org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j says oh and by the way I provide log4j:log4j myself so you don't need to pull it in transitively if you depend on me I

Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
Sebb, I think that you are pointing at the dilemma at the center of this. Anything like this that we put into the top pom is inherited unless overriden, and people are skittish about accidently making everything part of the Maven project. Where would you propose that we put a link to that it

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 28 June 2011 14:38, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Because why should I have to always state that I'm using org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j and that it provides log4j:log4j much better that the pom for org.slf4j:log4j-over-slf4j says oh and by the way I provide log4j:log4j myself

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
I agree, but if you stick to the cannot change the pom format the only thing you can just about do is introduce a new scope. Is this, let's make this feature before we're willing to change the pom or let's never change the pom.

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
I would offer scopealsoProvides/scope for the feature you propose. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 June 2011 14:38, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Because why should I have to always state that I'm using

Re: scopeperi/scope

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 28 June 2011 16:27, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, but if you stick to the cannot change the pom format the only thing you can just about do is introduce a new scope. Is this, let's make this feature before we're willing to change the pom or let's never change the

Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
done [1] site deployed [2] any comments appreciated to continue to improve the documentation Regards, Hervé [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/pom/trunk/asf/pom.xml?view=markup [2] http://maven.apache.org/pom/asf/ Le mardi 28 juin 2011, sebb a écrit : May I make a plea for the ASF POM

Re: [VOTE] ReleaseMaven Release plugin version 2.2

2011-06-28 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 Thanks ! -- Olivier 2011/6/27 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com: Hi, We solved 12 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11144styleName=Htmlversion=16778 Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-061/ Source

Re: [VOTE] ReleaseMaven Release plugin version 2.2

2011-06-28 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1 Regards, Hervé notice: the staging site is http://maven.apache.org/staging/maven-release/ Le lundi 27 juin 2011, Stephen Connolly a écrit : Hi, We solved 12 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11144styleName= Htmlversion=16778 Staging repo:

Re: core integration tests trunk

2011-06-28 Thread Olivier Lamy
FYI I have created some jobs for core integration testing : * ubuntu (1.5 and 1.6) * windows (I have to investigate why it failed currently) * osx (not yet osx here to debug :-) : I wonder if there any symlink on osx for /tmp ?) See jobs here https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/ with

Pom changes

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
This is a new thread for the topic I accidentally started with Steven. I'm fairly new around here, so please try to forgive me for (re)stating the obvious. There is an ecosystem of tools that parse poms. They don't use any library we give them, they just parse them. We want old tools to handle

Re: core integration tests trunk

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: FYI I have created some jobs for core integration testing : * ubuntu (1.5 and 1.6) * windows (I have to investigate why it failed currently) * osx (not yet osx here to debug :-) : I wonder if there any symlink on osx for

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
maven 2.0.10 is still widely used. and convincing enterprises to upgrade is tricky... even our own model parsing is not forgiving if i recall correctly... so far as 3.0.x too - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-28 Thread Benson Margulies
But why do 2.0.10 users need to build against brand-spanking-new poms? And, if they do, could we give them a downconversion tool? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: maven 2.0.10 is still widely used. and convincing enterprises to upgrade is

Re: svn commit: r1131500 - in /maven/pom/trunk/asf: pom.xml src/ src/site/ src/site/apt/ src/site/apt/index.apt src/site/site.xml

2011-06-28 Thread sebb
On 28 June 2011 15:40, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Sebb, I think that you are pointing at the dilemma at the center of this. Anything like this that we put into the top pom is inherited unless overriden, and people are skittish about accidently making everything part of

Re: Pom changes

2011-06-28 Thread Milos Kleint
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: But why do 2.0.10 users need to build against brand-spanking-new poms? And, if they do, could we give them a downconversion tool? the new poms will arrive to central for everyone to use.. Milos On Tue, Jun 28,