not the
> easiest thing to change.
>
> You mention that 12 line SBT build - that’s great, but the moment you need
> to deviate from something normal - it can deviate quite quickly IMHO.
>
>
>
>
> From: Hunter C Payne
>
> Reply: Maven Developers List
> Date: 14 December 2020 at 10:06:25 AM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
>
> Hunter PS I've never even heard someone want a repeatable build. I have no
> idea why that would even be that desirable.
10:06:25 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
Hunter PS I've never even heard someone want a repeatable build. I have no
idea why that would even be that desirable.
:25 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
Hunter PS I've never even heard someone want a repeatable build. I have no
idea why that would even be that desirable.
, however.
Gruss
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Von: Hunter C Payne
Gesendet: Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:02:15 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: AW: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
So there have been a few comments so far (yea) so I'm
: Saturday, December 12, 2020 8:02:15 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: AW: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
So there have been a few comments so far (yea) so I'm going to try to address
them here:
1) choice of formatAny format that specifies a POM should have validation
(which
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Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
the XML format. The verbosity is due in lar
gt;
> > So please join your forces and spend your energy on improving polyglot!
> >
> > thanks,
> > Robert
> > On 12-12-2020 11:04:33, Markus KARG wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be a more modern and even more effective approach to add JSON
> > support for POMs? We c
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> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> An: dev@maven.apache.org
> Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
>
> One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
> the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 3:23 PM Markus KARG wrote:
>
> Okay, seems you got me wrong. The idea is not to force YOU to write JSON, but
> to allows OTHERS to do that. There are people that like JSON and YAML over
> XML, so we if would have a separating layer between the information needed by
>
OM.xml for legacy reasons but add support
> for POM.json files.
> -Markus
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> An: dev@maven.apache.org
> Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attribut
, 12. Dezember 2020 12:46
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
Am 2020-12-12 um 11:04 schrieb Markus KARG:
> Wouldn't it be a more modern and even more effective approach to add JSON
> support for POMs? We could keep POM.xml for legacy reasons b
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Gesendet: Samstag, 12. Dezember 2020 12:53
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
Here's my unpopular response: I'm not going to invest in attribute support for
Maven
p POM.xml for legacy reasons but add
> support
> > for POM.json files.
> > -Markus
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> > An: dev@maven.apache.o
or POMs? We could keep POM.xml for legacy reasons but add support
> for POM.json files.
> -Markus
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> An: dev@maven.apache.org
> Betreff: [DISCUSS] A
Hi,
On 11.12.20 23:40, Will Iverson wrote:
One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the exclusive
reliance on XML elements in Maven.
Which I can't see.
Only a few people are complainging about that...
I
Hard no. While this might be a good idea if were we starting for
scratch—I have no opinion about that—it would be massively
incompatible with the existing toolchain; not just Maven but Gradle,
SBT, static analysis tools, bazel, and everything else that sits on
top of the Maven repository system.
refer YAML for this.
> >
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> > > An: dev@maven.apache.org
> > > Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shor
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> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
> > An: dev@maven.apache.org
> > Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
> >
> > One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
> > the XML format. The verbosity is due
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Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the exclusive
reliance on XML elements in Maven.
. It is a decent serialization format, but a horrible one for
humans. I would rather prefer YAML for this.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Will Iverson [mailto:wiver...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2020 23:40
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes
23:40
An: dev@maven.apache.org
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Allow attributes shorthand in pom.xml
One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the exclusive
reliance on XML elements in Maven.
Proposal: Allow Maven pom.xml
I'd love less verbose XML.
Gary
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 17:40 Will Iverson wrote:
> One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
> the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the exclusive
> reliance on XML elements in Maven.
>
> Proposal: Allow Maven
I agree that the XML format is a bit long. That's why a bit ago I wrote Maven
Unbound.
Homepage: https://hunterpayne.github.io/maven-unbound-site/Source:
https://github.com/hunterpayne/maven-unbound
Its a way to generate pom.xml files from Hocon/Json (and visa-versa). This
allows two things:
Ha, looking at the source code for polyglot-xml it's using Modello to do
something very similar to what I'm proposing- it's tweaking Modello code
gen to allow dependencies and plugins to be defined via attributes. It
also is generating a new XSD and a new pom.xml41 which uses that XSD. The
You can use polyglot-maven for a compatible approach for your own pom files
right now..
https://github.com/takari/polyglot-maven/tree/master/polyglot-xml
Manfred
Will Iverson wrote on 2020-12-11 14:40 (GMT -08:00):
> One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
One of the biggest complaints about Maven has long been the verbosity of
the XML format. The verbosity is due in large part to the exclusive
reliance on XML elements in Maven.
Proposal: Allow Maven pom.xml to treat attributes as a short-hand for
declaring configuration elements.
Example: One of
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