Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-24 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Chris Graham wrote: I can imagine that many of the Maven-interoperability issues that ivy had/has (I've not been near it for some years) are attributable to the lack of a usable specification of repository layouts, operational semantics, etc. I think that

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not a fundamental characteristic of the 'deploy' operation. However, even Aether leaves some

RE: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
23, 2012 7:38 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
[mailto:c...@cemerick.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Vincent Latombe
to the plugin. I think you mean something else when you say deploy operation. -Original Message- From: Chas Emerick [mailto:c...@cemerick.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
Yeah, I'll post over there shortly. However, while Aether is the now-canonical implementation of these operations, many other tools exist (and will exist) that create, update, and access Apache Maven repository data. It seems like having well-defined semantics for such things separate from

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Manfred Moser
On 12-02-23 04:37 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not a fundamental characteristic of the 'deploy' operation.

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Manfred Moser
: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:38 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: On 12-02-23 04:37 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Chris Graham wrote: Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. Very true for `mvn`. Not true in Aether; this would seem to be a userland tool convention, and not

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-23 Thread Chris Graham
I can imagine that many of the Maven-interoperability issues that ivy had/has (I've not been near it for some years) are attributable to the lack of a usable specification of repository layouts, operational semantics, etc. I think that you've found the real issue there. It's the same one as

Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chas Emerick
I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is generally applicable for all Maven tools…but let me know if I should simply bounce to the Aether ML. In short, I'd like to know what the

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Manfred Moser
On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is generally applicable for all Maven tools…but let me know if I should simply bounce to the Aether ML.

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chas Emerick
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify some semantics. Though I'm working with Aether, I think this question is generally applicable for all Maven tools…but let

Re: Functional distinction between install and deploy operations

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Graham
Remember that 'deploy' still calls 'install'. -Chris On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Chas Emerick c...@cemerick.com wrote: On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Manfred Moser wrote: On 12-02-22 08:11 PM, Chas Emerick wrote: I am working on a Clojure facade for Aether,[1] and would like to clarify