Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Vishaal Kapoor
Hey folks, Slack is also not available in all countries. Maybe this is something to consider? Just in case anyone didn't see this, it's Mitchell Hashimoto's response. Take it as you will on item 5. I'm just including it here for information. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23349635 mitchel

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Tianqi Chen
I am just trying to send a note about the principle, not trying to give any opinions about X should do Y. See also the explaination in the annotated version https://opensource.org/osd-annotated Given that particular part of the code is not linked/distribute by the Apache project, we might be fine

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Marco de Abreu
Tianqi, I think that statement can go in both directions. The Chinese government is actively restricting companies from operating if they do not cooperate with the government and weaken their security. Thus, I would not consider HashiCorp to be actively discriminating here. >From that point on it'

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Tianqi Chen
https://opensource.org/docs/osd > 5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups It would be useful to focus on ^ principles, and focus on building better software together. TQ On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:33 AM Sheng Zha wrote: > Hi Marco, > > At the time I started the thread, the specific term

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Sheng Zha
Hi Marco, At the time I started the thread, the specific term related to China reads as follows: PLEASE NOTE THAT THE SOFWARE MAY NOT BE USED, DEPLOYED, OR INSTALLED IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. [1] My concern with the above clause is that it starts the practice of HashiCorp targeting a

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-31 Thread Marco de Abreu
The statement is specifically about HashiCorp Vault enterprise edition - speak a single module of their enterprise suite which is about credential encryption. I didn't read further, but my first guess is that they are not offering it in China since the Chinese government - as far as I can recall -

[DISCUSS] Deprecating and Forbidding Terraform and Other Services by HashiCorp in MXNet

2020-05-30 Thread Sheng Zha
Dear community, Yesterday, HashiCorp added to their terms of evaluation the clause that forbids usage of the enterprise version of any HashiCorp software in the People's Republic of China [1]. While this does not affect the usage of the community version, it does signal the potential legal risk