Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-30 Thread Carin Meier
Zach, If you are willing and able to do that on behalf of Amazon, that would be great. -Carin On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 8:35 PM Zach Kimberg wrote: > If we replace the official CPU build, won't there still be new dependencies > so it is not even guaranteed to work depending on whether the user h

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-29 Thread Zach Kimberg
If we replace the official CPU build, won't there still be new dependencies so it is not even guaranteed to work depending on whether the user has the dependencies (e.g. libgfortran) installed? I think there is also a performance degradation if we remove mkl. But, we could still have a third-party

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-29 Thread Carin Meier
Thanks. I understand now. If all the current jars are not compliant, then they should be removed. I also don't like the idea of "replacing" a jar on maven with another jar. It sounds like we can consider publishing cpu jars only going forward for a new release. - Carin On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 1:3

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-29 Thread Lausen, Leonard
On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 12:15 -0400, Carin Meier wrote: > > Going forward - we with future releases, we can have all users build their > own packages, just for the existing ones that are compliant on maven. > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:14 PM Carin Meier wrote: > > > Leonard, > > > > Is this #2

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-29 Thread Carin Meier
Going forward - we with future releases, we can have all users build their own packages, just for the existing ones that are compliant on maven. On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:14 PM Carin Meier wrote: > Leonard, > > Is this #2 Option still on the table? > > 2) Ask the Infra team to delete all MXNet

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-29 Thread Carin Meier
Leonard, Is this #2 Option still on the table? 2) Ask the Infra team to delete all MXNet GPU releases on > repository.apache.org and provide replacement releases without libgfortran.so > and other potentially Category-X files (I found libmkl_ml.so in one of the > JARs..) It seems like it would

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-27 Thread Lausen, Leonard
Ok, so let's restart the lazy consensus on the removal of the Maven artifacts. As there were concerns that this is to rushed, let's make it a 168 hour (7 day) lazy consenus. I'm happy to cancel it again if anyone has a better idea and ressources to implement it. Just to clarify, similar to the Pyp

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-27 Thread Marco de Abreu
Thanks for your input Carin. In that case, I'll take back my -1 and feel free to proceed. -Marco Carin Meier schrieb am Mi., 27. Mai 2020, 14:53: > Leonard, > > Thank you for putting the pull request together. Unfortunately, I don't > have any bandwidth to assist with any JVM activities right

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-27 Thread Carin Meier
Leonard, Thank you for putting the pull request together. Unfortunately, I don't have any bandwidth to assist with any JVM activities right now, so I will defer to those that are have time and are willing to put in the dev effort. However, I will give my opinion that having a jar load and then fa

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Lausen, Leonard
Hi Marco, thank you for explaining your reasoning. Thus let's cancel the lazy consensus. I think we're all aware of the impact of this problem you mention and I too am concerned about it. But, please note that this discussion has been ongoing for 14 days and there has been no proposal for mitigat

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Marco de Abreu
Hi, I'm upholding my -1 until a clear path to communicate and handle the change has been provided paired with assessment to mitigate potentially caused damage. I understand that we're required to remove the releases since they should not have been there in the first place. But what you're suggest

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Lausen, Leonard
@Carin I created https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/18410 to update the documentation. @Marco The replacement is to build from source. But I'm afraid that there's nothing to -1 here, as the existing convenience binaries are in violation of ASF policy and the ASF board has requested the

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Marco de Abreu
Do we offer any replacement for those deletions or will be break stuff then? If we break anything, I'd -1 until we found a way moving forward to ensure uninterrupted service. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:51 PM Carin Meier wrote: > Does anyone have any bandwidth to update installation documentation

Re: [Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Carin Meier
Does anyone have any bandwidth to update installation documentation on the website, so it doesn't refer them to install it from maven? Here are the links to the gpu instructions for Scala, Java, and Clojure. The cpu ones will also need to be updated if also removed. https://mxnet.apache.org/get_st

[Lazy consensus] Removal of all repository.apache.org mxnet artifacts (and their mirrored maven central counterparts)

2020-05-26 Thread Lausen, Leonard
On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 20:49 +, Lausen, Leonard wrote: > I see the following two potential remedies: > > 1) Ask the Infra team to delete all MXNet releases on repository.apache.org > > 2) Ask the Infra team to delete all MXNet GPU releases on > repository.apache.org and provide replacement rel