Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread antonio
Hi again, We have 83 source code sample zip files [1] referenced from the tutorials, with simple examples, that we may want to add. Do we want to redo then under the Apache License? Request Oracle to donate these as well? Thanks, Antonio [1]

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread antonio
Hi again, Some tutorials (see [1] for an example) point to source code zips (no ASF headers) hosted at netbeans.org. These are small zips that add value to the tutorials. I'll try to enumerate these files and try to salvage them. Maybe we want to create a "samples" repository for hosting

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread antonio
We already have a OSOUL service. Maybe we can upload the repository there, and then redirect from bits.netbeans.org to that place (we're already redirecting requests from Apache to Oracle infrastructure). Cheers, Antonio El 16/1/20 a las 18:51, Lars Bruun-Hansen escribió: (org.netbeans

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 17:51, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > I think you can forget about Maven Central. As far as I remember they > require that you can prove that you own the name used as Maven groupId > (reversed). I would check that with Apache Infra whether something can be arranged there. I

RE: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread Eric Barboni
vage? I'm not sure to catch them all. > > I will ask sonatype for central. > > Regards > Eric > > -Message d'origine- > De : Geertjan Wielenga Envoyé : jeudi 16 janvier > 2020 08:44 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Any objections > against turning netbean

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
> I will ask sonatype for central. > > Regards > Eric > > -Message d'origine- > De : Geertjan Wielenga > Envoyé : jeudi 16 janvier 2020 08:44 > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org > Objet : Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF? > > If people outside O

RE: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread Eric Barboni
: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF? If people outside Oracle would do this, that would be best and simplest (any process or decision in Oracle takes time). Gj On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > Hi Matthias > > Sure. When suggesting to "salv

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-16 Thread Jiří Kovalský
d'origine- De : Jiří Kovalský Envoyé : mardi 14 janvier 2020 09:53 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF? And the NETBEANS-3569 issue has been implemented. In my opinion, the new NetBeans Plugin Portal 3.0 is ready to replace the old one. I hope

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
If people outside Oracle would do this, that would be best and simplest (any process or decision in Oracle takes time). Gj On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > Hi Matthias > > Sure. When suggesting to "salvage" the Maven artifacts from > bits.netbeans.org/maven2 I made it

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-15 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
Hi Matthias Sure. When suggesting to "salvage" the Maven artifacts from bits.netbeans.org/maven2 I made it clear that the hosting couldn't be affiliated with the ASF. But that doesn't prevent a community member doing it on his own or some other organization doing it. The old license [1] doesn't

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-15 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Lars, I don't see a reasonable way to do what you describe. The code is GPLv2+CDDL (to my knowledge), the content of the repositories owned by Oracle. Only the donation files can be relicensed to ALv2 and thus are eligable for integration/redistribution. The message from the ASF to my

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-14 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
As the suggestion is phrased, "turn off netbeans.org", I cannot support it. It has to be clearer. Will that TLD cease to exist? Or what exactly do you mean by "turn off" ? Summary: Things to consider which are hosted (or redirected from) netbeans.org: - NetBeans WWW (the page you arrive at

RE: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-14 Thread Eric Barboni
artefacts from 5.5 to 8.2) some documentation in platform.netbeans.org or some .netbeans.org Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Jiří Kovalský Envoyé : mardi 14 janvier 2020 09:53 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF? And the NETBEANS

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-14 Thread Jiří Kovalský
And the NETBEANS-3569 issue has been implemented. In my opinion, the new NetBeans Plugin Portal 3.0 is ready to replace the old one. I hope you agree Ernie. Thanks, -Jirka Dne 07. 01. 20 v 19:43 Ernie Rael napsal(a): On 1/3/2020 1:05 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: Hi Antonio,    in my opinion

Re: Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-09 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
+1 It still essential to keep bits.netbeans.org: it hosts older Maven artifacts that are still required. If you want to create a Mavenized plugin for VisualVM 1.4.x which is still based on NB platform 8.2 or 9.0, you need to access the RELEASE82 and RELEASE90 artifacts. I recently faced this

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-07 Thread Ernie Rael
On 1/3/2020 1:05 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: Hi Antonio,    in my opinion the new Plugin Portal 3.0 [1] is ready for usage I believe that until [NETBEANS-3569] is resolved, the portal is not ready for general usage. It's fine for creating the update center catalog, but not for user browsing

Re: Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-05 Thread Eric Bresie
+1 for keeping / migrating / redirecting bits.netbeans.org Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On January 3, 2020 at 4:35:32 AM CST, Karl Tauber > wrote: > Hallo, > > what happens to http://bits.netbeans.org/ ? > > I is quite useful to browse NetBeans javadoc online. > > Karl > > > > El 2/1/20 a

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-04 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 02.01.2020, 16:56 +0100 schrieb Jiří Kovalský: > Can we identify parts which still need to be migrated? Is anyone > aware of something which prevents decommissioning of Oracle > infrastructure hosting the legacy services? For the plugin portal I would like to ensure,

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Yes, I agree with both suggestions i.e. not exposing the VM URL but rather https://plugins.netbeans.org instead plus aligning the decommission of Oracle hosting to 12.0 release date. Thank you Antonio & Neil. -Jirka Dne 03. 01. 20 v 13:17 Neil C Smith napsal(a): On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 09:28,

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 09:28, antonio wrote: > I don't think exposing the "netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal" url is > a good idea (because it ties a service to a specific box). +1 > We may want to _also_ shut down "plugins.netbeans.org", and then make > "plugins.netbeans.org" point to >

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread Karl Tauber
Hallo, what happens to http://bits.netbeans.org/ ? I is quite useful to browse NetBeans javadoc online. Karl El 2/1/20 a las 16:56, Jiří Kovalský escribió: Hello folks,     as many of you know we have successfully matured to a top level Apache project in 2019. How about turning

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread antonio
Hi Jiri, I don't think exposing the "netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal" url is a good idea (because it ties a service to a specific box). We may want to _also_ shut down "plugins.netbeans.org", and then make "plugins.netbeans.org" point to "http_S_://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal".

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Hi Antonio, in my opinion the new Plugin Portal 3.0 [1] is ready for usage and if anyone would like to access the old plugins s/he can use the snapshot [2] hosted on Emilian's private VM. [1] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/ [2]

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-03 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Yes, the redirection will be taken care of since ASF already owns the netbeans.org domain and it now forwards the traffic to the Oracle servers. ASF will simply update the redirection rule to netbeans.apache.org. -Jirka Dne 02. 01. 20 v 23:46 Eirik Bakke napsal(a): Any objections against

RE: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-02 Thread Eirik Bakke
> Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF? By "turning off", do you mean redirected? Redirecting should be better from a SEO perspective, not wasting years of accumulated search engine credit... -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Jiří Kovalský Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020

Re: Any objections against turning netbeans.org OFF?

2020-01-02 Thread antonio
Hi Jirka, There's an open issue here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245?focusedCommentId=16876231=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16876231 It seems the plugin portal will stop working. Don't know if the new plugin portal is a