Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Let's continue on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2409 ! On 4/12/19 3:56 PM, Enrico Scantamburlo wrote: I have the same problem. Those calls are really slow because it is Windows. The slowest of all is File. getCanonicalPath/File.getCanonicalFile They really freeze the ui for

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Enrico Scantamburlo
I have the same problem. Those calls are really slow because it is Windows. The slowest of all is File. getCanonicalPath/File.getCanonicalFile They really freeze the ui for some seconds Il ven 12 apr 2019, 23:38 Laszlo Kishalmi ha scritto: > Thank you for the data! > > I'm going to create a

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Thank you for the data! I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there. At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows Filesystem side. From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call.

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
Another strange thing. If I type: someIdentifier. I get an automatic auto-complete popup after typing the ‘.’, populated with all the methods or members I could finish with. But as soon as I type one letter, eg .’i’ (to select "isSomething()"), then I get a “Please wait…” and a few seconds

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space) taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s.  Yes it does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly in case the list strips attachements. NB11_autocomplete.nps Description: Binary data

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Kodewerk
Hi Scott, Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1 second intervals. Kind regards, Kirk > On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted

Re: Press Releases for new TLPs: Apache NetBeans

2019-04-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
Hello again, Geertjan --as promised, here's the process: We work together to issue a formal ASF press release --here's a great opportunity to solicit quotes/testimonials from the Apache NetBeans community to demonstrate the project's robustness and breadth of deployment. TLP announcements have

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > > On 4/12/19 11:15 AM, pe...@webparity.net wrote: >> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting > > Is there a good reason for this entire thread to be cross-posted? I originally include groups that I thought could help. I’m fine with just

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 4/12/19 11:15 AM, pe...@webparity.net wrote: > NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting Is there a good reason for this entire thread to be cross-posted? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Kodewerk
Hi, It is my belief that we can solve this with about 2 or 3 strategically timed thread dumps. The thing with execution profiling is that it will pick up the hot method. In this case there is likely something hung up and it’s very likely that the execution profiler will miss it. The NB

RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread peter
Darn it! I thought that by clicking review and report it did it automatically. That would be a great thing to automatically create a JIRA ticket when a problem occurs. Do you all concur? Because having to retype everything slows progress. V/r Peter Borreggine Owner and

Re: Press Releases for new TLPs: Apache NetBeans

2019-04-12 Thread Sally Khudairi
That's awesome, Geertjan. Congratulations to you and the PMC. I've been following your tweets on this. I'll be happy to follow up with you later today on the details on this. Currently heading into a meeting and will be back in the office afterwards. I'll be in touch. Kind regards, Sally - -

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas Wolf
You did? I was under the impression that in Apache Netbeans you had to manually create a Jira ticket. On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:15 PM wrote: > NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not > responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports... > > > Peter

RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread peter
There are only 44 .java files for me and I never program in Java. I'm an Angular/Node/Bootstrap guy. This is for 8.2 There are only 33 being used in NB 10 There are only 36 being used in NB 11 This is for me... Peter Borreggine Owner and Developer

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread John Neffenger
On 4/12/19 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer wrote: Are others seeing the slowness? Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more. I saw these delays in NetBeans 10, but I'm unable to

RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread peter
OH? So Gradle is "built-into" NBs? Forgive my ignorance. Thank you Peter Borreggine Owner and Developer Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business WA State License: 603-501-609 360-830-8926 C “Lead,

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Kodewerk
Hi all, All projects suffer from regressions from time to time. The only way to deal with them is to gather data, which I’ve asked for, and analyze it to see what can be done to fix it. What is unhelpful are messages about this or that sucks. It’s subjective and offensive. Kind regards, Kirk

RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread peter
I’m not using Gradle... hate it. We have problems at work with Gradle on InteliJ which also sucks. Peter Borreggine Owner and Developer Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business WA State License:

RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread peter
I love NB's and will never switch. I've been using it since 2013... and love it. But the lagging, the locking up on save, the memory leaks, the not being able to format... really is frustrating. The other thing, I have only 1 or 2 projects in a group open so, it's not massive projects in the

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems you encounter are with Gradle. Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause of the problem here. And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900 files, etc:

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and that was with 8.2. Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB). I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far. I will try to see

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas Wolf
"Are others seeing the slowness?" I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to

Re: NetBeans TLP Press Release? [Was: Fwd: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board]

2019-04-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Done. Gj On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:33 PM Ate Douma wrote: > PPMC members, Geertjan, > > Did anyone already notify pr...@apache.org about the imminent > graduation to TLP, to be decided by the board next week? > > If not, I strongly advise to do so *now* as there is little time > to draft up a

Press Releases for new TLPs: Apache NetBeans

2019-04-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Sally, The graduation of Apache NetBeans to TLP is imminent. It is scheduled to be decided by the board next week. We have been strongly advised by our mentors to contact you now as there is little time to draft up a proper press release. Herewith I am doing that on behalf of Apache

NetBeans TLP Press Release? [Was: Fwd: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board]

2019-04-12 Thread Ate Douma
PPMC members, Geertjan, Did anyone already notify pr...@apache.org about the imminent graduation to TLP, to be decided by the board next week? If not, I strongly advise to do so *now* as there is little time to draft up a proper press release together with Sally Khudairi! See:

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Kodewerk
Hi Scott, I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you

Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, possibly it is related to Gradle. Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based Java projects. Gj On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer wrote: > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share > my project. > I’m not certain

Very Slow Operations with NB 11

2019-04-12 Thread Scott Palmer
What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project. I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t

editing fxml

2019-04-12 Thread joe schmo
Every time I edit an fxml file inside Netbeans 11.0 I get dialog box about verification, is there a way suppress this? BC [cid:1e9cb706-e2fa-4b95-aafd-c90b56d71273]