Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components

2012-03-16 Thread Pierre Smits
I think the entire set of example functionalities should be removed from the core and moved over to either the special purpose section. I also believe that the marketing/sfa application should be split up and moved to special purpose. Regards, Pierre Op 16 maart 2012 00:47 schreef Anne

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all, Currently there are several threads regarding the overhaul of the framework, the mini-lang, and other structures. But how will all these affect the performance? I haven't seen anything on that subject. Regards, Pierre Op 16 maart 2012 02:15 schreef David E Jones d...@me.com het

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-16 Thread Adrian Crum
The mini-lang overhaul only effects the grammar, not the performance. No one can comment on the framework performance until a decision is made about the direction it will take. -Adrian On 3/16/2012 8:09 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: Hi all, Currently there are several threads regarding the

[jira] [Closed] (OFBIZ-4684) class files remain after ./ant clean-all

2012-03-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux (Closed) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4684?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-4684. -- class files remain after ./ant clean-all

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components

2012-03-16 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
Le 14/03/2012 23:04, Tom Burns a écrit : I see these applications as falling into two categories. Applications that are common to most businesses and domain specific applications. This follows the pattern laid out in the two DMR Books. The former, more general, category should get the most

Re: OFBiz and Apache Extras

2012-03-16 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
Le 14/03/2012 10:47, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : Note: we could even drop the 3 requirements about the license: I have added them because they will be required if the project will ever want to initiate the Incubator process to become an official ASF subproject (part of OFBiz) Kind regards,

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components

2012-03-16 Thread Nicolas Malin
Le 16/03/2012 00:47, Anne a écrit : Perhaps user interface project(s) would be a good fit for the proposed Apache Extras? Our experience is that one interface does not fit all. Having different ones to choose from might be helpful for many people. It's the goal :) All addons name portlet-*

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components

2012-03-16 Thread Nicolas Malin
Le 15/03/2012 19:01, Tom Burns a écrit : Nicolas, I think your dream OFBiz development environment would be something like what Salesforce.com offers. Yes it's a dream, in reality these solution isn't viable to create an generic ERP has Apache OFBiz.If you scratch, application are so business

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components (Intro)

2012-03-16 Thread Olivier Heintz
Hi, I'm a ERP modularity Fan, My ideal ERP would be a Kernel, smallest as possible but with all which is common to all possible business applications, - Technical Framework (only on technical choice by domain) - Common Data model, Entities and fields - Common Services - Common User

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components (2)

2012-03-16 Thread Olivier Heintz
comments are in-line Le 14/03/2012 18:22, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : Thank you Adrian. Just to clarify that I was not talking about the architecture of the framework (topic for another day) but only for the layout of the applications and it is not based on what I think it is best in general

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components (3)

2012-03-16 Thread Olivier Heintz
comments are in-line Le 14/03/2012 19:34, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: Understood. As a service provider, I regularly comment out unused applications I would be interested to know what are the applications under the applications folder that

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components (4)

2012-03-16 Thread Olivier Heintz
comments are in-line Le 14/03/2012 23:04, Tom Burns a écrit : Adrian / Jacopo While thinking about a refactoring the OFBiz Architecture you may want to look at http://www.aosabook.org/en/intro.html. The book is all about Open Source architecture. In particular see the chapter on Eclipse, the

Re: OFBiz (layout svn repository) and Apache Extras (5)

2012-03-16 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Olivier, nice to talk with you again. I agree with yours and others comments on this proposal: in short we will setup a page in the OFBiz website with a list of OFBiz related projects in Apache Extras mentioning the license and a small description of what they do and their status; the OFBiz

Re: Rethinking the structure of the OFBiz Applications Components

2012-03-16 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Thanks for all the comments; but I actually didn't want to fall again in the never ending story about what we think the perfect applications should look like: it is way too abstract topic, there are so many different opinions and it has been discussed in the past so many times without finding