Hi all,

Currently there are several threads regarding the overhaul of the
framework, the mini-lang, and other structures. But how will all these
affect the performance?

I haven't seen anything on that subject.

Regards,

Pierre

Op 16 maart 2012 02:15 schreef David E Jones <[email protected]> het volgende:

>
>
> Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >> 3. running in a single webapp: while this isn't necessary with
> >> Moqui, the Moqui Screens are a combination of the controller.xml
> >> entries for the particular screen and the OFBiz Screen Widget, and
> >> are hierarchical instead of being flat like the request-map URIs in
> >> OFBiz; this allows apps to plug into a screen hierarchy from
> >> separate places (by explicit inclusion, a database record, or
> >> implicitly by directory structure)
> >
> > The existing OFBiz screen/form widget is an area where OFBiz should
> > be greatly improved in my opinion. Some of the things I don't like: *
> > the "configuration by exception" patter should be used more
> > extensively (most common screen definitions, controller entries
> > etc... should not be required) * it is difficult to build complex
> > Ajax screens * I don't like the xml code for screen/form actions: it
> > is limited and it is an additional programming language to learn * in
> > simpler screen it is an overkill to maintain in separate files the
> > data preparation script, the form definition and the screen
> > definition * the html code that is produced by the widgets is ugly
> > and difficult to maintain
> >
> > It seems that some of the points above have been addressed by Moqui;
> > David, did you ever consider to integrate other ui frameworks in
> > Moqui? I know that in Moqui there is a more powerful mechanism to
> > automatically render ui elements (e.g. submenu items for subscreens
> > etc...) but frankly speaking I am less interested in them because I
> > have learned that these tools are great to cover the 80% of the
> > requirements of a ui but the work on the remaining 20% still has to
> > be done in each and every screen to make it really usable. But I
> > would be really interested to see a rather complex Moqui screen that
> > uses Ajax and calls events: this would help me to evaluate the
> > advantages of the new solution.
>
> I don't know of any magic formulas for web-based UI stuff. Even a lot of
> the desktop UI stuff is quite a pain and only elaborate visual-design
> tools make it easier... and when those aren't adequate for what you want
> to build life gets hard in a hurry.
>
> One thing that the Moqui screens have that help with this is that it is
> easier to extend the form and screen definitions by just adding macros
> to an FTL template that extends and/or overrides the default templates.
> You can add your new tags to an XSD file if you want so that things will
> validate properly in your IDE, but that is not necessary for the new
> tags to function.
>
> This still isn't a silver bullet, but at least it makes it easier to
> incorporate consistent UI widgets based on jQuery plugins or your own
> hand-rolled stuff or whatever so that it is not necessary to have HTML
> and/or JavaScript snippets to use each of these on each screen/page that
> needs them.
>
> It is also easier to inline HTML and JavaScript in a screen definition,
> so that doesn't have to be maintained in a separate file... and have
> have HTML inline in a form field and such. In other words, you can drop
> it just about anywhere, making it much easier to do crazy stuff with the
> screen and form XML files so you don't have to drop to FTL templates so
> often.
>
> OOTB the Moqui XML Screens and XML Forms use more JavaScript and dynamic
> stuff than the OFBiz ones, but there is still a LOT of room for
> improvement and it is something I'd like to do more of, or work with
> other who do it to get it into the project (any takers? :) ).
>
> If you have other ideas about what an artifact might look like that
> would be easier for UI stuff, I would be very interested in discussing
> it more. You have a lot of good ideas Jacopo, and I appreciate them a
> great deal.
>
> -David
>
>

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