Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-05-21 Thread Ron Wheeler
getting David Jones back into the project. Yes, I realize i open the pandora box :-) but we need to make some major decisions Regards, Hans Bakker antwebsystems.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Apache Cloudstack moved to git for code and docs

2015-05-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
This is a news summary from the Apache Cloudstack project that I thought might be interesting for a number of points. They seem happy with their move to git. They are also using sub-projects. Docs also on git with a build system to generate the web site. They actually have a public list of

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
reasons to switch to Java 8 only. Christian Am 07.05.2015 17:58, schrieb Ron Wheeler: On 07/05/2015 11:32 AM, Christian Geisert wrote: Yes, we must support Java 8, but we absolutely have the choice to still support Java 7 (i.e. no use of Java 8 only features yet) IMHO there should be good reas

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
e source/target values in common.xml in the same folder. ps: I'm fine with moving towards 1.8. It's not a choice that we can make, actually. On 05/07/2015 01:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Yes (lazy) consensus over vote ;) Jacques -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc

Re: Addons for OFBiz

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
ity that allow to include non-committer contributions ... What do you think ? Julien. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Java 8 and functional programming in trunk

2015-05-07 Thread Ron Wheeler
nk we could do it also in the 14.12 release branch because no releases have been issued from it. And in this way it will be easier to backport future fixes from trunk to 14.12 (an important factor because 14.12 will be maintained for years, unless we change our release strategy). Jacopo -

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6271) build management with maven

2015-05-05 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14529135#comment-14529135 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6271: I did not say that it was a good idea fo

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6271) build management with maven

2015-05-05 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14528361#comment-14528361 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6271: How many third party dependencies are par

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6271) build management with maven

2015-05-04 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14527064#comment-14527064 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6271: Maven profiles are inherently evil and

Re: VOTE RESULT: Begin Replacing OFBiz Framework With Moqui

2015-05-02 Thread Ron Wheeler
| 2 (Adam Heath, Jacques Le Roux) +1 | 1 (David Jones) -1 | 3 (Nicolas Malin, Scott Gray, Jacopo Cappellato) Others (non-Binding) +0 | 1 (Adrian Crum) -1 | 2 (Ron Wheeler, Martin Becker) The vote failed to pass with 3 -1 votes and 1 +1 vote. The replies included a discus

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6271) build management with maven

2015-05-02 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6271?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14525426#comment-14525426 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6271: Since the tasks are defined in Maven's

Re: VOTE: Begin Replacing OFBiz Framework With Moqui

2015-04-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
Apr 2015, at 08:01, Ron Wheeler wrote: What is the reason not to absorb Moqui or a fork of Moqui into OFBiz if we decide to replace the existing framework with Moqui. Is there a reason to have Moqui as a separate Apache project? Seems like extra overhead for no advantage. Moqui is already a

Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started. On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people di

Re: VOTE: Begin Replacing OFBiz Framework With Moqui

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
d later. I believe we can create a thunk component to help solve compatibility problems, but that is a separate discussion. I only mention it here in case compatibility concerns might influence a vote. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Fwd: [ANN] Apache Maven 3.3.3 Release

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Wheeler
This is the latest version of Maven. Ron Forwarded Message Hi! The Apache Maven Team is pleased to announce the release of 3.3.3 The release notes can be found here: http://maven.apache.org/docs/3.3.3/release-notes.html The release can be downloaded from: http://maven.apac

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Wheeler
data loaded a bit less transparent and more user friendly. Ron On 28/04/2015 12:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 28/04/2015 15:22, Ron Wheeler a écrit : On 28/04/2015 3:31 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 27/04/2015 16:52, Adam Heath a écrit : On 04/27/2015 09:40 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: You

Re: Milestone: Re: svn commit: r1676405 - in /ofbiz/branches/OFBIZ-6271: applications/product/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Wheeler
I get the same problem. Issue confirmed. Thanks guys. I should have done step 2 before announcing. On 04/27/2015 11:57 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: 1) Old version of Maven. running with the current version will make it easier to debug any problems 2) It looks like you have not built and deployed

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-28 Thread Ron Wheeler
organization of the applications. This will require a high level of cooperation between the experts in the Ant build scripts and the experts promoting Maven. Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Milestone: Re: svn commit: r1676405 - in /ofbiz/branches/OFBIZ-6271: applications/product/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Wheeler
n. A "maven clean" and "maven package -DskipTests" is runnable with tools/startofbiz.sh. I have not run system integration tests(aka, any test that requires a running ofbiz instance). The startup code does proceed without any exceptions, so I think this is progressing

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Wheeler
tomated procedures. For example, an interactive iZPack installer that installs the OFBiz modules that you want and loads the seed data that you need and sets up the services. Jacques Le 24/04/2015 06:26, Ron Wheeler a écrit : +1 Any change of breaking the project up into components that are compil

Re: VOTE: Begin Replacing OFBiz Framework With Moqui

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
POC. If the community agrees we need to make a change, then we can create a Jira issue, branch, POC, etc. No one is going to go to all that work if in the end the community says "Nope, don't want it." Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com -- Ron Wheeler

Re: VOTE: Begin Replacing OFBiz Framework With Moqui

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
that is a separate discussion. I only mention it here in case compatibility concerns might influence a vote. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
cation and frameworks and hopefully getting David Jones back into the project. Yes, I realize i open the pandora box :-) but we need to make some major decisions Regards, Hans Bakker antwebsystems.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype:

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
will establish a clean separation between application and frameworks and hopefully getting David Jones back into the project. Yes, I realize i open the pandora box :-) but we need to make some major decisions Regards, Hans Bakker antwebsystems.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc em

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
have decided about the future. Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
Still +1 ! Ron On 24/04/2015 11:12 AM, Adam Heath wrote: On 04/24/2015 10:05 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: +1 Looks like Adam has the right approach. Thanks. However, I'm thinking of adding a few steps. See below. Ron On 24/04/2015 10:36 AM, Adam Heath wrote: +0.5 (see below, comment i

Re: Maven and Git providing build into at run-time

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
The key thing to me is that if a person reports a bug with the product identification on the screen or sends a log, can you find the version of the code that was used to build their application. Ron On 24/04/2015 10:39 AM, Adam Heath wrote: On 04/24/2015 07:45 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote: An

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
integrating a groovy compiler plugin, I see only one .groovy in framework/service/src, for the entire project. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6298) Java collection use optimized

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6298?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14511179#comment-14511179 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6298: http://winterbe.com/posts/2014/07/31/j

Maven short intro

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
For anyone who has never used Maven, here is a short introduction. Maven essentials for the impatient developer https://vaadin.com/blog/-/blogs/the-maven-essentials-for-the-impatient-developer Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype

Maven and Git providing build into at run-time

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
git-commit-information-as-json/ Not a compelling reason to move to Maven or git but a nice addition to OFBiz to make support and bug reporting a bit easier. Also just a nice bit of reading if you enjoy reading about clever programming. Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc em

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6298) Java collection use optimized

2015-04-24 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6298?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14510954#comment-14510954 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6298: Since Java 7 is coming to EOL, this might

Re: Proposal: redefining the components' directory layout for source files

2015-04-23 Thread Ron Wheeler
xample: script/org/ofbiz/product/ src/org/ofbiz/product/ src/org/ofbiz/product/test/ to: src/main/java/org/ofbiz/product/ src/main/minilang/org/ofbiz/product/ src/main/groovy/... src/test/java/org/ofbiz/product/ What do you think? Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email:

Re: Fwd: Re: Maven

2015-04-23 Thread Ron Wheeler
ploy into the global shared repo. On 04/22/2015 09:03 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: Just to let everyone know that we are not the only people working on a switch to Maven. The Apache FOP team is also trying to see what the impact would be of switching to Maven. Being able to put libraries in Maven

Fwd: Re: Maven

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
Just to let everyone know that we are not the only people working on a switch to Maven. The Apache FOP team is also trying to see what the impact would be of switching to Maven. Being able to put libraries in Maven Central more easily seems to be a hot topic. Building the appropriate artifac

Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler < rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: Definitely a good idea. Sh

Re: Long: Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
olutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Ron Wheeler < rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: Perhaps it would be a good idea for some of the key people to take a close look at what has been

Re: Long: Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
rofessional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Ron Wheeler < rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote: Perhaps it would be a good idea for some of the key people to take a close look at what has been done. This is potentially a big s

Re: Long: Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
, but it is important that you appreciate that it may not be merged into the project (based on the outcome of the ongoing discussion). Regards, Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts

2015-04-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
ervices & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Long: Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-21 Thread Ron Wheeler
the change is merged in. I will continue to use git locally for this(as I always have), and will go silent for a short bit, but then mass-commit changes afterI have finessed them into something presentable. A new burst is coming in a few hours. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc

Re: move to git.

2015-04-21 Thread Ron Wheeler
lt in a distributed master repository image. If anyone else is interested in such an arrangement please feel free to speak up and we can begin the planning process. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: move to git.

2015-04-21 Thread Ron Wheeler
ributions to the private repo have been released to me under an Apache license. I am not advocating a shift to git, just trying to support Jacopo's suggestion of looking at workflow first with a slight addition of extending the discussion to project management philosophy since tha

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 20/04/2015 5:07 PM, David E. Jones wrote: On 20 Apr 2015, at 12:48, Ron Wheeler wrote: On 20/04/2015 3:11 PM, David E. Jones wrote: On 20 Apr 2015, at 11:35, Ron Wheeler wrote: Would Moqui become a sub-project of OFBiz with distinct deliverable with an Apache license? Or is that too

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 20/04/2015 4:15 PM, David E. Jones wrote: On 20 Apr 2015, at 12:29, Ron Wheeler wrote: On 20/04/2015 3:19 PM, David E. Jones wrote: Buildr is similar to Gradle, though Ruby-based where Gradle is Groovy-based and so has more affinity with OFBiz. Continuum is a different sort of animal, a

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 20/04/2015 3:57 PM, Nicolas Malin wrote: Le 20/04/2015 21:48, Ron Wheeler a écrit : Would not have to call of Apache Moqui. It would just be Moqui , part of Apache OfBiz Ron, in other word, you propose to fork Moqui into Apache OFBiz ? Nicolas I am not proposing anything. I am

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 20/04/2015 3:11 PM, David E. Jones wrote: On 20 Apr 2015, at 11:35, Ron Wheeler wrote: Would Moqui become a sub-project of OFBiz with distinct deliverable with an Apache license? Or is that too much community? IMO they are better as distinct projects. There is a chance Moqui Framework

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
n, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, David E. Jones wrote: That gets back to the question of why change in the first place... build files may be smaller and easier to maintain, but there may not be a good reason! -David -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
p; Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, David E. Jones wrote: That gets back to the question of why change in the first place... build files may be smaller and easier to maintain, but the

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
right decision. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: Sorry Pierre. I hope it did not

Re: Discussion: Replace framework by Moqui.

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
ter performance. Neither one is a show-stopper for me. Same here, just cautious. Caution is good in this case... to be honest I'm not sure using Moqui Framework in OFBiz is a good idea (as I've mentioned before), will write more on that in another reply. -David -- Ron Wheeler P

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: Maven imposes a philosophy on builds that you either follow or fight (and lose). The good side is that once you have your structure and

Re: discussion: Move to Maven was:Re: svn commit: r1674216 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/start/pom.xml pom.xml

2015-04-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
27;d surely be for instead of Maven. If ever we really desire to move from Ant, I don't clearly see the necessity at this stage... Jacques -- Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6225) Add a basic VAT report with frequency setting

2015-04-17 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6225?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14499946#comment-14499946 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6225: But can it read an exiting form and parse i

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6225) Add a basic VAT report with frequency setting

2015-04-17 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6225?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14499930#comment-14499930 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6225: Good point. > Add a basic VAT repo

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6225) Add a basic VAT report with frequency setting

2015-04-17 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6225?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14499857#comment-14499857 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6225: Are you using iText http://itextpdf.com/ to

Re: OFBiz and projects-new.apache.org and

2015-04-13 Thread Ron Wheeler
I added it 3 months ago I agree aboutbeing in "frameworks and tools" category. I wonder if OFBiz would not be alone in an application category ;) What about "project-management"? We have a good component. Jacques Le 13/04/2015 16:03, Ron Wheeler a écrit : The category

Fwd: Meetups: The "Apache Way" and Open Source & Open Sourced GemFire In-Memory Distributed Database and Apache Contributors

2015-04-13 Thread Ron Wheeler
If anyone is in the Bay area, there are a couple of interesting meetings. The "Apache Way" caught my attention. Ron Forwarded Message Spring by Pivotal Spring by Pivotal Hi Ron, Join us this month for two interesting mee

Re: OFBiz and projects-new.apache.org and

2015-04-13 Thread Ron Wheeler
structure, Travel Assistance, Security Team, Legal Affairs and Brand Management). Don't you think we should list these PMCs like any other? Regards, Hervé -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: svn commit: r1672486 - /ofbiz/site/release-notes-13.07.02.html

2015-04-11 Thread Ron Wheeler
t also in community decisions which are the fundamental ones. OK, I'm maybe stressing things a bit too much on this trivial case ;) but I guess you get my point, in general... Jacopo Jacques -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype:

Re: Proposal to introduce factory pattern to java collections

2015-03-28 Thread Ron Wheeler
nions on whether this is a wanted / acceptable feature so I can create a JIRA accordingly. Your opinions are appreciated. Taher Alkhateeb. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: [VOTE] reintroduce the evicted specialpurpose components in R13.07

2015-03-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
you can't see them when Birt is enabled. Jacopo On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Don't we also have dependencies on birt? Regarding reporting in accounting and order? Best regards, Pierre Smits -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@a

Re: [VOTE] reintroduce the evicted specialpurpose components in R13.07

2015-03-24 Thread Ron Wheeler
to leave them out from release branches They should even not be in trunk then I agree; but if they are in published releases this is even worse because the PMC have to sign them. trunk is not officially published. We discussed about these concepts several times. Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler Presiden

Re: Release Strategy and Branch Support

2015-03-23 Thread Ron Wheeler
l change I wrote that we should state in download page that *not all bug fixes are backported to all living release branches* Should be *despite our best effort, not all bug fixes are backported to all living release branches* ;) Jacques Le 22/03/2015 14:49, Ron Wheeler a écrit : Great discuss

Re: Release Strategy and Branch Support

2015-03-22 Thread Ron Wheeler
logs to check and amend what they use (with a link to wiki from the download page). >> <> and how to use https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ then. So finally not much is missing :) Jacques Le 23/10/2014 15:08, Ron Wheeler a écrit : I think that many projects that are "import

Re: Entity Caching

2015-03-21 Thread Ron Wheeler
he.properties and after the store on a cached GenericValue is a delegator's problem. I see a simple test like that : if (genericValue came from cache) { if (value is already done) { getFromDataBase update Value } else refuse (or not I have a doubt :) ) } store Nicolas -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-5534) Dirty reads from entity cache

2015-03-20 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5534?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14371416#comment-14371416 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-5534: If you are going to fix the current system

Re: Entity Caching

2015-03-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
ounter strange behavior that will be very difficult to reproduce and debug. My preference is to cache data that is read often and updated rarely. On 20 March 2015 at 17:44, Ron Wheeler wrote: Isn't this the kind of issue that something like ehcache handles? It seems to know the difference b

Re: Entity Caching

2015-03-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
are immutable - if you want to modify them, then you will have to clone them. So, this approach can produce an additional line of code. -- Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: The Makings of a Great ERP User Experience

2015-03-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
important from a project management point of view, but they loose significance when regarded from a user point of view. Users simply demand an experience for ERP applications which is similar to that which they have become accustomed to with other apps. Gavin On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:26

The Makings of a Great ERP User Experience

2015-03-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
rtner with best-of-breed solutions to fill functional gaps. But one area where ERP solution providers are beginning to differentiate themselves is how they deliver on user interface, thereby shaping a user’s experience within the system." http://www.technologyevaluation.com/fnl/1/2/2/191252/

Re: Entity Caching

2015-03-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
ne them. So, this approach can produce an additional line of code. -- Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Entity Caching

2015-03-18 Thread Ron Wheeler
s not something you can decide at design time. Instead, that is a decision that needs to be made during staging - where you can measure the real-world effects of concurrent processes. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email:

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

2015-03-12 Thread Ron Wheeler
y enforces password resets for all committers. This has the helpful side-effect of effectively locking unused committer accounts. Mark -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: OFBiz integration for Magento eCommerce

2015-03-10 Thread Ron Wheeler
s. In my opinion this product could be integrated as a specialpurpose component, but I am open to suggestions. What do you think? Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6141) Have a placeholder for the 'ProjectMgr' component

2015-03-10 Thread Ron Wheeler
user can expect/perform. An additional paragraph should be focused on the contributor, where he can find the component specific issues (in JIRA) and view changes committed to the component (in VIEWVC). -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) -- Ron Wheeler President Art

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-3949) Better RoleType Documentation

2015-03-04 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3949?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14347636#comment-14347636 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-3949: Where? This relates to a question that I a

Re: Java SE 7 EOL

2015-03-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
: I think we could use Oracle date and that would apply only to trunk anyway... Jacques Le 04/03/2015 14:12, Ron Wheeler a écrit : The real question is: "At what date are we going to allow code to be added to the product that will not run on the Java 7 jvm?" or "At what date wil

Re: Java SE 7 EOL

2015-03-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Ron Wheeler wrote: The real question is: "At what date are we going to allow code to be added to the product that will not run on the Java 7 jvm?" or "At what date will releases cease to be tested for the

Re: Java SE 7 EOL

2015-03-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
racle date and that would apply only to trunk anyway... Jacques Le 04/03/2015 14:12, Ron Wheeler a écrit : The real question is: "At what date are we going to allow code to be added to the product that will not run on the Java 7 jvm?" or "At what date will releases cease to be

Re: Java SE 7 EOL

2015-03-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
oad sites. http://ow.ly/Iz25J>> <http://t.co/7ZCwLmt402> I think it's time for us to declare Java 8 our recommended version. Jacques -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change name of birt component

2015-02-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
much sense given the effort put into fixing all the links to the component and anything else that might break from the rename. My 2 cents! Cheers Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Ron Wheeler" To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 26 February, 2015 6:01:09 PM Subje

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change name of birt component

2015-02-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6110) Move as much as possible demo data from ecommerce to product or order components

2015-02-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
7;m all against Maven Jacques Le 26/02/2015 14:48, Ron Wheeler a écrit : Getting into multiple Maven projects for development, unit testing and delivery of components would make the project easier to learn and customize. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change name of birt component

2015-02-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
. What do you think? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.c

Re: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6110) Move as much as possible demo data from ecommerce to product or order components

2015-02-26 Thread Ron Wheeler
after the main one. This is when https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies helps and shows why it should be actively maintained! For instance I'm not sure we show data loading order there... -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change name of birt component

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Wheeler
s and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6110) Move as much as possible demo data from ecommerce to product or order components

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6110?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14336541#comment-14336541 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6110: This would require a commitment

Re: New OFBiz Bug Crush Event tomorrow, trivia

2015-02-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
re Jacopo -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Best Practise Guide

2015-02-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
Wiki to be accessible to everyone. Thanks Sharan -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Adding UML to the Wiki

2015-02-20 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 20/02/2015 2:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 20/02/2015 02:15, Ron Wheeler a écrit : On 19/02/2015 12:36 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 19/02/2015 17:19, Ron Wheeler a écrit : That would be great. I do not have write access to that part of the wiki but I could contribute some text and

Re: Apache OFBiz on Wikipedia

2015-02-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
. Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Adding UML to the Wiki

2015-02-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
ufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: Le 19/02/2015 17:19, Ron Wheeler a écrit : That would be great. I do not have write access to that part of the wiki but I could

Re: Adding UML to the Wiki

2015-02-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
On 19/02/2015 12:36 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Le 19/02/2015 17:19, Ron Wheeler a écrit : That would be great. I do not have write access to that part of the wiki but I could contribute some text and examples and links to the sites that I have found for Graphviz. It would be good to have

Re: Adding UML to the Wiki

2015-02-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
in the wiki (children of https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Contributors or directly a section in https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices) with Guidelines for graphics in the wiki? Jacques Le 19/02/2015 15:29, Ron

Adding UML to the Wiki

2015-02-19 Thread Ron Wheeler
http://blog.lunatech.com/2007/04/27/uml-class-diagrams-confluence-using-graphviz-and-dot Shows some simple ways to add UML to the wiki using Graphviz. Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Another language for authoring help and documentation

2015-02-18 Thread Ron Wheeler
competing languages and some product comparisons. Ron -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-6082) HELP_HR_Main.xml invalid Docbook syntax

2015-02-17 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6082?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14324821#comment-14324821 ] Ron Wheeler commented on OFBIZ-6082: Index: applications/humanres/data/help

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-6082) HELP_HR_Main.xml invalid Docbook syntax

2015-02-17 Thread Ron Wheeler (JIRA)
Ron Wheeler created OFBIZ-6082: -- Summary: HELP_HR_Main.xml invalid Docbook syntax Key: OFBIZ-6082 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6082 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Bug

Re: Java 8

2015-02-17 Thread Ron Wheeler
y the community. Jacques -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

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