Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-25 Thread Jacques Le Roux
@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority Hi Marek, hi all, what's your point of view to that: http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-on-invoiced-time-entries-tt18498937.html If everyone only would selling goods through orders, nobody has a problem. But from a more

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-20 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
country as seller. Little nightmare. Please check if it is same in different countries in EU. Marek http://www.jotel.com.pl - Original Message - From: Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority Hi Marek, hi

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-18 Thread David E Jones
On Jul 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: David, thanks for your valuable information; please see my comments below: On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The from and to Geo discussion is interesting from a requirements perspective, but

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-18 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:53 AM, David E Jones wrote: On Jul 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: David, thanks for your valuable information; please see my comments below: On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The from and to Geo discussion

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-18 Thread Roland
Hi Marek, hi all, what's your point of view to that: http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-on-invoiced-time-entries-tt18498937.html If everyone only would selling goods through orders, nobody has a problem. But from a more general point of view, I think tax should be calculated independendly of the

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Rashko Rejmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jacopo, I also noticed that the system can not handle situation when different rates apply to some customers. This is also the case in Colombia where tax rate depends on the combination of buyer and seller social activities. For example if a big

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-16 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacques Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rashko Rejmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jacopo, I also noticed that the system can not handle situation when different rates apply to some customers. This is also the case in Colombia where tax rate depends on the combination of buyer and seller social

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
David, thanks for your valuable information; please see my comments below: On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The from and to Geo discussion is interesting from a requirements perspective, but I'm wondering if it is really the best way to look at

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-15 Thread Rashko Rejmer
Hi Jacopo, I also noticed that the system can not handle situation when different rates apply to some customers. This is also the case in Colombia where tax rate depends on the combination of buyer and seller social activities. For example if a big contributor sells to a government organization

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority This is an interesting thread. I'd suggest, before we start to discuss how to change the data model, to go one step back and properly define all the requirements relevant for VAT tax calculation. I am sure others

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
: Re: VAT - tax authority This is an interesting thread. I'd suggest, before we start to discuss how to change the data model, to go one step back and properly define all the requirements relevant for VAT tax calculation. I am sure others will be interested in adding their comments

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Hello Jacopo Hi Marek, and thank you for your comments. However, I'd suggest that, before we focus on the data model definitions and changes, we focus on the definition of requirements from an higher level perspective. In this way we will focus on the definition of our goals (aha

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Marek, and thanks for the further details; maybe for now we could phrase out the WHERE to WHERE requirement in the following way: * add the ability to specify the tax rules associated to a given (internal) organization The above could be done using the geoId of the bill from address

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
and thanks for the further details; maybe for now we could phrase out the WHERE to WHERE requirement in the following way: * add the ability to specify the tax rules associated to a given (internal) organization The above could be done using the geoId of the bill from address (as you are

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Jul 14, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: and thanks for the further details; maybe for now we could phrase out the WHERE to WHERE requirement in the following way: * add the ability to specify the tax rules associated to a given (internal) organization The above could be done

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-14 Thread jonesde
The from and to Geo discussion is interesting from a requirements perspective, but I'm wondering if it is really the best way to look at things. I may be biased though, given that I designed the current TaxAuthority model and understand better the various world-wide requirements that went into

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority Hi all, see inline... On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:37, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Algorithm: if seller is VAT aware seller if byuer is from my country take vat% from product category if buyer is from EU and is valid VAT company

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Roland
Hi Marek, see inline Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Is there global exemption for cutomer ? sorry, i don't understand? In Poland we have sometimes exemption per product per person type (e.g. accomodation costs for persons are tax free) But we handle this usually as separate product. (we have

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Roland wrote: Hi Marek, see inline Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Is there global exemption for cutomer ? sorry, i don't understand? In Poland we have sometimes exemption per product per person type (e.g. accomodation costs for persons are tax free) But we handle

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
see inline Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Is there global exemption for cutomer ? sorry, i don't understand? In Poland we have sometimes exemption per product per person type (e.g. accomodation costs for persons are tax free) But we handle this usually as separate product. (we have product

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Jul 4, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: see inline Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Is there global exemption for cutomer ? sorry, i don't understand? In Poland we have sometimes exemption per product per person type (e.g. accomodation costs for persons are tax free) But we handle this

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-04 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
- tax authority This is an interesting thread. I'd suggest, before we start to discuss how to change the data model, to go one step back and properly define all the requirements relevant for VAT tax calculation. I am sure others will be interested in adding their comments. As soon as we

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-03 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
This is an interesting thread. I'd suggest, before we start to discuss how to change the data model, to go one step back and properly define all the requirements relevant for VAT tax calculation. I am sure others will be interested in adding their comments. As soon as we have defined a list

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-03 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
What is the meaning of WU? Jacopo On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: - Original Message - From: Jacopo Cappellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: VAT - tax authority This is an interesting thread

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, see inline... On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:37, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Algorithm: if seller is VAT aware seller if byuer is from my country take vat% from product category if buyer is from EU and is valid VAT company

VAT - tax authority

2008-07-02 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
Currently VAT/Tax sales switch is based on showPricesWithVatTax in productStore. But in fact it should be based on taxAuthority table. There is the place where we could know if it is VAT or not. It would be also important in purchase order where there is no need for store. Marek

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-02 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Marek, On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Currently VAT/Tax sales switch is based on showPricesWithVatTax in productStore. But in fact it should be based on taxAuthority table. There is the place where we could know if it is VAT or not. It would be also important in

Re: VAT - tax authority

2008-07-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacopo Cappellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Marek, On Jul 2, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: Currently VAT/Tax sales switch is based on showPricesWithVatTax in productStore. But in fact it should be based on taxAuthority table. There is the place where we could know if it is VAT