Am 07.02.2013 22:10, schrieb Pavel Janík:
In my opinion the problem is not only the problem with the trade mark (or
the simple program-name) but also a public relations problem.
I do not know the team of Feodora, but I know many people of LO / TDF and,
let me be clear, _some_ (_not_ all)
On 8 February 2013 08:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
It's not only Fedora, but also other GNU/Linux distributions using such
transitional packages. It's a common way supporting users to update
their system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use
- d.
Hello,
It's not only Fedora, but also other GNU/Linux
distributions using such
transitional packages. It's a common way supporting users to update
their system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use
Mmh ...
I read that, but what is your opinion? Did you mean that the
Am 08.02.2013 10:57, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
Hello,
It's not only Fedora, but also other GNU/Linux
distributions using such
transitional packages. It's a common way supporting users to update
their system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_use
Mmh ...
I read that, but what
Hello Michael,
IMO it's not the best way trying to make Apache OpenOffice part of
GNU/Linuy distributions again to blame them.
Please can I have this sentence in german?
I've been thinking now 5 minutes, but I'm not sure what you mean _exactly_.
Greetings,
Jörg
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:48 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 February 2013 08:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote:
It's not only Fedora, but also other GNU/Linux distributions using such
transitional packages. It's a common way supporting users to update
their
Am 08.02.2013 11:34, schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
Hello Michael,
IMO it's not the best way trying to make Apache OpenOffice part of
GNU/Linuy distributions again to blame them.
Please can I have this sentence in german?
I've been thinking now 5 minutes, but I'm not sure what you mean
On 8 February 2013 11:55, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:48 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 February 2013 08:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de
wrote:
It's not only Fedora, but also other GNU/Linux distributions using such
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 February 2013 11:55, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:48 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 February 2013 08:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de
wrote:
It's not only
Hello Michael,
Bitte schön:
Meines Erachtens nach ist es nicht der beste Weg, Apache OpenOffice
wieder in die GNU/Linux-Distributionen hineinzubekommen (sie wieder zu
einem Teil der GNU/Linux-Distributionen zu machen), diesen Vorwürfe zu
machen.
Ich mache den Linux-Distributoren (oder
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed
anything but OpenOffice:
sudo yum install openoffice.org
It doesn't. But indeed the openoffice.org alias has been discussed and I
hope we can get it reassigned or dropped without invoking trademarks.
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed
anything but OpenOffice:
sudo yum install openoffice.org
It doesn't. But indeed the openoffice.org alias has been discussed and I
hope we can get it reassigned
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 02/06/2013 09:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 31/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
We should argue that the aliases came from OpenOffice and that they were
hijacked if you want by LibreOffice.
Fedora won't reassign aliases unless a default program is replaced
(i.e., unless OpenOffice becomes a default program, which it won't in
F19). Anyway the
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed
anything but OpenOffice:
sudo yum install openoffice.org
It doesn't. But indeed the
On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed
anything but
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark
On 7 February 2013 13:46, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 7 February 2013 13:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea
Am 07.02.2013 13:26, schrieb janI:
If it is so classic, then for sure the ASF laywers could inform Fedora
about the problem, and ask them to correct it, independently of whether or
not AOO is distribtuted. I assume that since they are the distributors they
need to make sure that their
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed
anything but
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:
We should argue that the aliases came from OpenOffice and that they were
hijacked if you want by LibreOffice. They even used the package name in
the past to install LibreOffice and not OpenOffice. We tolerated it
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fedora will branch for Alpha on 2 Apr 2013: we must have something
decently packaged by that time. At FOSDEM I met the Fedora people
together with Herbert and Andre, so we already have some knowledge
of the process.
More
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
It comes down to user confusion. We've already seen users confused by
this, where they think they are installing OpenOffice and instead get
something else. This is classic trademark infringement. You can't
offer bottles of Coca-Cola for to
In my opinion the problem is not only the problem with the trade mark (or the
simple program-name) but also a public relations problem.
I do not know the team of Feodora, but I know many people of LO / TDF and,
let me be clear, _some_ (_not_ all) consider it well to cultivate a public
Hello,
From: Pavel Janík [mailto:pa...@janik.cz]
Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora
who is misusing our trademark for other project?
I'm not sure how to understand this question.
Please understand that I am not a developer and I do not understand the
technical
Pavel Janík wrote:
Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is
misusing our trademark for other project? Shouldn't we notify Fedora
people politely about this situation and let them (and help them!)
solve the issue first?
This part of the thread is derailing a bit
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:13:18PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fedora will branch for Alpha on 2 Apr 2013: we must have something
decently packaged by that time. At FOSDEM I met the Fedora people
together with Herbert and Andre, so we already have some knowledge
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Pavel Janík wrote:
Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is
misusing our trademark for other project? Shouldn't we notify Fedora
people politely about this situation and let them (and help
On 31/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal at
this stage, like dozens of other proposals.
It is starting to become something a little bit more official now.
Minutes ago, the FESCo meeting (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee)
Am 02/06/2013 09:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 31/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal at
this stage, like dozens of other proposals.
It is starting to become something a little bit more official now.
Minutes ago, the FESCo
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Am 02/06/2013 09:13 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
On 31/01/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal at
this stage, like dozens of other proposals.
It is starting to
Le 31/01/2013 00:10, Rob Weir a écrit :
This is a great step, Andrea. Apache OpenOffice has many Linux users.
We see this in the download numbers. But today the install
experience is, like many things in Linux, more complicated than the
average immigrant from Windows-land is accustomed to.
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice
You can see this as a first step in getting back into the major Linux
distributions. Timing aside,
Hello;
- Messaggio originale -
Da: David Gerard
...
A question I was wondering (for the Wikipedia article): is there any
Linux distribution that presently carries AOO in its repos?
I understand it's in the FreeBSD ports tree
Hi
2013/1/30 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice
I am currently a user of Fedora. Has a good
2013/1/30 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
On 1/30/2013 16:54, RGB ES wrote:
2013/1/30 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice
You can see this as a
On 30 January 2013 23:10, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
This is a great step, Andrea. Apache OpenOffice has many Linux users.
We see this in the download numbers. But today the install
experience is, like many things in Linux, more complicated than the
average immigrant from
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:
Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't
planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:
TJ Frazier wrote:
On 1/30/2013 16:54, RGB ES wrote:
Good! The proposal was noticed by Phoronix too :)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTI4ODI
It got more coverage than needed, probably. It is just a proposal at
this stage, like dozens of other proposals.
Note that the
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