Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-09-02 Thread toki
On 31/08/2016 22:44, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> As a business model, it works for most of the Apache projects that emerged >> from Incubation, and stayed out of the Attic. > I think that is the case because downstream producers, who get the support > business, contribute to their upstream fr

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-09-01 Thread Kay Schenk
On 07/11/2016 09:44 PM, Suminda Dharmasena wrote: > This is exactly what I had in mind also. >From the original post of: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201607.mbox/%3CCAAfFNYEBbXaTj5-qVy7V8Uj7uA3wCyo6O0fsHG7ESpmTG4qO3Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E None of the approaches listed

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-09-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
;> > > >>> -Original Message- > > >>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 > > >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > >>> Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develo

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 22:04 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO > > Am 01.09.2016 um 00:59 schrieb Sim

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO >>> >>> On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >>> >> I think that is the case because downstream producers, who g

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subj

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO > > On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Kay Schenk
Original Message- >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] >> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 14:04 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO >> >> There is a bit to discuss about how "The en

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread toki
On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > One can always create an independent entity. It hasn't happened. By now, > the odds are clearly that it will not. The Document Foundation is an independent entity, building upon the OOo 3.x code base. > My considered opinion is that the great

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
day, July 11, 2016 14:04 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO > > There is a bit to discuss about how "The entity should ensure they work > on the AOO codebase using the ASF way" is workable or not. In > particular

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Sorry, incorrect mailing list, so repetition: Hello, > From: Suminda Dharmasena [mailto:sirinath19...@gmail.com] > This is exactly what I had in mind also. Ok, but: then (imho), this has nothing to do with Apache, and need not be discussed here, because that is the normal open source way.

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Suminda Dharmasena
This is exactly what I had in mind also. > > AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH > > Another way to interact and support Apache OpenOffice in terms of > collaborative contributions is as follows. > > 1. Establish a downstream producer, TeamX (for example), that provides > releases of derivative software ba

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There is a bit to discuss about how "The entity should ensure they work on the AOO codebase using the ASF way" is workable or not. In particular, no such entity can direct the project at Apache or otherwise effectively govern it. More about that later. There is another option, summarized belo

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Suminda Dharmasena [mailto:sirinath19...@gmail.com] > I am writing to see if the current AOO Dev team would like to > create an > independent entity which can: > >- Do trainings >- Accept funds and have pay developers >- Write commercial books / online tutorials wit

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Suminda Dharmasena
Every remaining dev / concerned user must get together a take an initiative. Things rarely workout on their own. On 11 July 2016 at 13:11, JZA wrote: > Sounds good, there have been some intention of these in the past, not sure > how open the community is right now to be honest. But is a good ide

Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread JZA
Sounds good, there have been some intention of these in the past, not sure how open the community is right now to be honest. But is a good idea if somehow there is some strong backing. On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:23 AM, Suminda Dharmasena wrote: > Hello, > > I am writing to see if the current AOO