Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-17 Thread Andrew Rist
hat all considerations can be addressed. > > - Dennis > >> -Original Message----- >> From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] >> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 00:58 >> To: Apache OO <dev@openoffice.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [QUESTION]

RE: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
erations can be addressed. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 00:58 > To: Apache OO <dev@openoffice.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)? > > Let's exa

RE: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Patricia: > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 11:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)? > > I would be strongly opposed to deserializing untrus

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-15 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:10 AM, toki wrote: > On 15/11/2015 20:06, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > > Please be more specific. I can't tell from the previous post what you > mean by deserializing untrusted code. > > There are a string of known zero day exploits that

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-15 Thread toki
On 15/11/2015 20:06, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Please be more specific. I can't tell from the previous post what you mean > by deserializing untrusted code. There are a string of known zero day exploits that Oracle, for whatever reason, has not released patches for, despite exploits having

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > There has been suggestion, and some expressed support, for AOO becoming a > Java application. > +1 I think it would be nice. Previous work on Java based office suites show promise and that this is possible. Cases in

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/11/2015 Marcus wrote: All nice, but with a short of developers that could do any of the points you listed below, it's just a theoretical idea what could be done. ;-) While Damjan brought a somewhat more pragmatic approach here, I'm still skeptical: not even coming to whether it is

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Let's examine porting AOO to Java in more detail. Java can easily call C code with JNA and also easily call even C++ with BridJ (https://github.com/nativelibs4java/BridJ) (with its sister project JNAerator even generating Java code to compile/link yours against by examining C/C++ header files),

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN#
Hi, I am pretty much a noob and have only started out contributing, but may I ask why moving to Java from C++ is being considered? This migration will take effort and time, and I was of the understanding that C++ code runs faster than Java. Thanks Jatin On 11/8/15, 8:48 PM,

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
"C++ code runs faster than Java" is, to some extent, a hold-over from the early days of Java, when JVMs where pure Bytecode interpreters. These days, it gets compiled, and optimized, as it is running. The optimizer has more data than a C++ optimizer, because it can see what flows are being

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread toki
On 08/11/2015 14:32, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >I am just getting started on AOO, and don't know the history of this discussion, Pretty much since Sun purchased StarWriter, there have been proposals to make OpenOffice.org Java only. If one considers NeoOffice to be a Java fork, then it is the

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/08/2015 05:19 AM, #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN# wrote: > Hi, I am pretty much a noob and have only started out > contributing, but may I ask why moving to Java from C++ is being > considered? This migration will take effort and time, and I was > of the understanding that C++ code

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I would be strongly opposed to deserializing untrusted code - it is full of problems. On 11/8/2015 11:14 AM, toki wrote: On 08/11/2015 14:32, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I am just getting started on AOO, and don't know the history of this discussion, Pretty much since Sun purchased

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Using some combination of general and special purpose tools to do the bulk of the conversion makes sense to me. In addition, once we have functionally correct Java code, refactoring for maintainability becomes easier. I am most familiar with the tools built into Eclipse: See

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-07 Thread Marcus
All nice, but with a short of developers that could do any of the points you listed below, it's just a theoretical idea what could be done. ;-) My 2 ct. Marcus Am 11/07/2015 08:41 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: There has been suggestion, and some expressed support, for AOO becoming a Java

RE: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:57 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)? > > All nice, but with a short of developers that could do an

Re: [QUESTION] Getting to AOO for Java (AOO4J)?

2015-11-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 11/7/2015 11:41 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: There has been suggestion, and some expressed support, for AOO becoming a Java application. I don't want to discuss the merits of this, but how it might be undertaken. ... 2. FORKING TO MAKE AOO4J? One could consider making a project fork.